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Saturday, September 12th 2015, 6:24pm

Sky view is not a mandatory thing though. If you have all the other things, you should be fine.
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Sunday, September 13th 2015, 11:25am

I have a question :
Let's say I already have a crop-matron providing fertilizer and water, I'm in a Moor biomes at Y: 160
The Moor biome has atemperature of Normal 50% and Damp 100%, whereas swamps have a temperature of Normal 80% and Damp 90%.
Am I going to be able to breed high stat crops and keep them alive?
Iirc the best Y level is 128, but the ground level is around Y 130 and mountains are everywhere so I had to build above ground.

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Sunday, September 13th 2015, 12:50pm

Best y level is 128 and above, so 160 is fine.

IC2 crop biome environment bonus is not based on temperature and humidity forestry-like, but on biome types.

Fertilizer and water greatly boosts the environmental values of nutrient and humidity, so you should be fine.
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Sunday, September 13th 2015, 6:15pm

So far I've managed to get a 14 30 crop so that answers my question
Seems like Moor is a swamp like biome, so that's a gg for me

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Monday, September 14th 2015, 5:50am

After noticing in the configs that Geologica lapis ore doesn't generate when GregTech is installed, and the COG version of lazurite veins wouldn't generate since I had disabled GregTech ores in the COG tabs, I went ahead and installed Mystcraft and explored a random age for a few kilometers, but then it lagged so bad that I tried to quit the game and it got stuck on "Shutting down internal server" for 10 minutes and I had to use MultiMC's "Kill Minecraft" button. In the morning, I'll see if the game will load.

Edit: the world loaded, but then quickly lagged completely again (after killing two cows, the third showed no reaction to being attacked, though I was able to travel further north to the edge of the generated chunks, and I even tried to use my linking book, but the GUI for it wouldn't open)

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Tuesday, September 15th 2015, 5:10pm

I went back to an older world yesterday, and did some breeding of my Aurelia crop to fill a 9x9 field (with water in the middle), which I thought was all growth 19-21, but after breeding some coppon, I went back and half the aurelia field was weeds. I think next time I'll go for quantity instead of trying to get the best stats. (and also use smaller separated fields to limit weed spreading - it can't spread to stone-type blocks, right?)

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Tuesday, September 15th 2015, 6:34pm

weeds only spread to other cropsticks.

Also, beware when you have high growth crops. If one of your recently crossbred crops get a growth of 24, it will weed the crops around it, destroying them.

Also also, go for quality AND quantity. Aurelia and ferru produce much more slower than the other metal crops.
You don't need perfect stats (21/31) just get something around 19-21 and 29-31.
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Tuesday, September 15th 2015, 7:08pm

I knew about the growth 24 part, and I thought all my crops were 19-21/29-31/any (I had already determined that going for exactly 21/31 would take too long), though the weeds proved me wrong (I used the portable scanner on a few of them, and saw growth values from 20 to 31, which makes it unlikely that it started from a weed from empty cropsticks, since those appear at 0/0/0). I also just realized that I might have left the high-growth crop in place when I only got rid of the weeds, but I checked the remaining aurelia crops, and none of them had growth higher than 21, so now I'm a little confused - I thought high-growth crops would only act like weeds, but not change to the "weed" texture.

weeds only spread to other cropsticks.

Don't they also convert adjacent cropstick-less farmland to grass?

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Tuesday, September 15th 2015, 7:27pm

Those crops that have growth >= 24 don't get turned into weeds, nor textures. They are supposedly immune to weeds too.
Weeds convert dirt into grass aswell yes.
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Wednesday, September 16th 2015, 6:16am

They are supposedly immune to weeds too.
Oh. I thought you would have to use weed ex on them if you didn't pay attention since the nearby cropstick gets turned into weed, or that every time you get a crop you have to quickly destroy the too high stat one.

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Thursday, September 17th 2015, 3:36am

SpwnX, I don't think I really understood until just now what you meant about nursery plots. I had been breeding my crops in-place to fill each field (once I had enough with high stats to make an "X" shape in the field), but that has an additional risk of producing growth 24 or higher crops if I fail to destroy some growth 22 or higher crops (e.g. by accidentally skipping them when scanning new crops) and crossbreed them, or if I end up with a crossbreeding spot with three growth-21 crops around it. You were talking about having separate plots with breeding stock, and once those got to 21/31 (or so), using crops crossbred from those to populate larger fields (without further crossbreeding), right? I think that would be both safer and less frustrating than the way I had been doing it before.

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Thursday, September 17th 2015, 3:56am

Ideally you can have lots of 21/31 2x2 plots to just crossbreed new seedbags, which would be safer as they are guaranteed to not go over 23 growth (and your crops stats would always be near perfect).

Also make sure those plots are separate enough from each other to prevent weed infestation if something goes wrong at any point.

Although, I'm used to crossbreed and spread fields on the go (while always scanning them and destroying any growth >21 crop).
This can be done at the very early stage too since the scanner doesnt need the crop to be mature as you probably know.
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Thursday, September 17th 2015, 4:42am

Ideally you can have lots of 21/31 2x2 plots to just crossbreed new seedbags, which would be safer as they are guaranteed to not go over 23 growth (and your crops stats would always be near perfect).

I might try the 2x2 plots (with water at the center of each group of 4 such plots?) in my next game, but since I already had 9x9 fields (with water at the center of each), I split each of them into four 4x4 fields.

Although, I'm used to crossbreed and spread fields on the go (while always scanning them and destroying any growth >21 crop).

That gets frustrating when 40% of the crops produced by crossbreeding will be outside the target 19-21 growth range (and therefore need to be destroyed), and I think a mistake while doing that was what cost me half my aurelia crops yesterday, though I couldn't figure out what happened to the rogue crop.

This can be done at the very early stage too since the scanner doesnt need the crop to be mature as you probably know.

I think the IC2 Cropnalyzer has had some changes recently, so it might not need that either now.

P.S. I'm curious: do you use default textures or a resource pack for your crops? With default textures, it's hard for me to see the difference between the last two stages of coppon, and with Soartex textures, it's hard for me to see the difference between the last two stages of stickreed, so I've been using Sphax 64x textures for the IC2 crops and the 32x textures by IChrisI that I adapted to 1.7.10 for some of the GT crops.

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Friday, September 18th 2015, 3:37am

I was talking about GT5U portable scanner. That one scans the crop while its on the field and tells you everything about the crop block. Alot of useful stuff like environment stats (nutrient, hydration and air quality).

I never had problems distinguishing crops with default textures.
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Sunday, September 27th 2015, 12:12am

IC2 crop biome environment bonus is not based on temperature and humidity forestry-like, but on biome types.

Seems like Moor is a swamp like biome, so that's a gg for me


Any tips on determining ahead of time which BoP biomes count as swampland for the purposes of IC2 crops? I would guess that lush swamp, bayou, and wetland count. I don't know if Nexey_'s results really prove that Moor counts, and I don't know whether quagmire or sludgepit would count.

Edit: I figured this out from decompiling sources, but since I'm not giving exact values, I hope this is okay: for the purposes of IC2 crops, lush swamp and bayou are about the same as vanilla swampland, wetland and bamboo forest are better, but fungi forest is the best. Moor isn't quite as good as vanilla swampland, quagmire and sludgepit are bad, and the worst is crag (even worse than the nether biomes, which are technically farmable iirc by using the BoP blood fluid in place of water)

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Sunday, September 27th 2015, 10:39am

The Moor biome has worked out for me. I now have 2 fields of high stats pumpkins and 2 of high stats reeds, I'm powering 10 diesel generators from immersive engineering with this setup.
I have about 45k pumpkins o/

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Sunday, September 27th 2015, 3:47pm

Nice, but that doesn't really prove that Moor is as good as swampland, because those are low-tier crops (pumpkin is tier 1, and reed is tier 2), so having a good biome is less critical for them (especially if you have a crop-matron going as you mentioned before).

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Sunday, September 27th 2015, 7:05pm

I also grow ferru and Aurelia without a crop-matron, although right now the server has an issue where we can't place crop sticks on tilled dirt. Idk how or why it happened, I hope this gets fixed.

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Wednesday, January 13th 2016, 6:38pm

With a different world, I trimmed my stickreed supply down to two 4/5/0 crops, and timed how long it would take for anything (even weeds) to appear on the crossbreeding plots, and got 10 timing points ranging from 23 seconds to just over 19 minutes. I think I'm better off if I spread it into a full 80-crop field, then take them home to scan, and re-plant the best 40 (and repeatedly crossbreed 40 at a time). It might take longer overall, but at least that way I won't be just sitting there staring at a few crossbreeding plots, waiting for something to grow there.

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Saturday, April 16th 2016, 4:16pm

With a different world, I trimmed my stickreed supply down to two 4/5/0 crops, and timed how long it would take for anything (even weeds) to appear on the crossbreeding plots, and got 10 timing points ranging from 23 seconds to just over 19 minutes. I think I'm better off if I spread it into a full 80-crop field, then take them home to scan, and re-plant the best 40 (and repeatedly crossbreed 40 at a time). It might take longer overall, but at least that way I won't be just sitting there staring at a few crossbreeding plots, waiting for something to grow there.

I've been using the latter method with some help from NEI's highlight mode, but now I'm wondering: is it possible to use NEI's regex search to highlight scanned seeds based on both the growth and the gain stats? (since they're on successive lines of the tooltip)

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