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Wednesday, October 12th 2011, 6:17am
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Thursday, October 13th 2011, 2:15am
Nothing new really...
You can also turn 64 Iron Ingots into Glowstone, back into 48 Iron Ores, then Macerate the ore to get 96 dust = 96 Ingots, effectively increasing the starting amount by 50%
Infinite Resources, anyone? Or just make Glowstone Blocks from Glowstone dust, in Glowstone Thingies, then turn some into dust and repeat... EE isnt about balance, not even close. Its about having fun!
Thursday, October 13th 2011, 6:23am
Nothing new really...
You can also turn 64 Iron Ingots into Glowstone, back into 48 Iron Ores, then Macerate the ore to get 96 dust = 96 Ingots, effectively increasing the starting amount by 50%
Infinite Resources, anyone? Or just make Glowstone Blocks from Glowstone dust, in Glowstone Thingies, then turn some into dust and repeat... EE isnt about balance, not even close. Its about having fun!
Wrong. It is balanced, but only with itself and vanilla mine-craft. You Cannot get free resources like that. Did you know glow-stone blocks are actually equally valuable as cobblestone? The issue arises when you combine two mods that allow abuse to occur, like industrialcraft, which is also balanced with itself and vanilla minecraft. Getting double ingots out of the Ores is fine, You can never turn em back into ores, so no way exists to get free materials with just industrialcraft. Now, If you add EE, you suddenly have a loop which you can use to cheaply create masses of resources, but that only is possible when you have both mods.
Equivalent exchange is not designed for balanced play with Industrialcraft, and vise verse.
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It has become a little stubbly. Implement facial hair growth in IC²? Vision continuously grows more furry until you shave. (approx once every 2 minecraft days ;P)
Thursday, October 13th 2011, 7:54pm
is that for 1.7.3 or 1.8.1 EE? i use 1.8.1 and 1 iron ingot = 1 glowstone block but it's 2 glowstone blocks = 1 iron ore.Nothing new really...
You can also turn 64 Iron Ingots into Glowstone, back into 48 Iron Ores, then Macerate the ore to get 96 dust = 96 Ingots, effectively increasing the starting amount by 50%
Friday, October 14th 2011, 5:36am
solar panels are free infinite energy. you just pay to build it and after that it provides free infinite energy forever. hook a mass fabricator up to it and you can make everything else in the game, for free. this is not exactly 'new'. cactus farm will make free cactus forever which can be used to make energy or recycle into scrap boxes for free diamonds. cobblestone generators can make cobblestone out of thin air which again can be recycled for free diamonds. those machine can be powered by solar panels for a factory that essentially make stuff out of nothing. why are people keep freaking out that EE allows them to get 'free' stuffs? vanilla minecraft allows this, IC2 allows this, BC makes this REALLY easy, EE makes a LOT of stuff from other stuff. it's a video game. it's okay.
Saturday, October 15th 2011, 8:04pm
well geothermal generators produce the most energy safely, and not applying to the quote, EE is somewhat balanced because you have an incredibly slow start, so far i'm using glowstone aggregators to produce the blocks to turn directly into diamonds. along with the coal chunks to diamonds (using the philospher stone you can make diamonds tools out of industrial diamonds, recycle and get regular diamonds) although, i find that uranium is found wayyyy too often while mining so, also the geothermal generators gave me a purpose to go to the nether again (besides cooked porkchops). And even thou i have TMI i sometimes just want to play without spawning items, because that makes it boring REALLY fast.solar panels are free infinite energy. you just pay to build it and after that it provides free infinite energy forever. hook a mass fabricator up to it and you can make everything else in the game, for free. this is not exactly 'new'. cactus farm will make free cactus forever which can be used to make energy or recycle into scrap boxes for free diamonds. cobblestone generators can make cobblestone out of thin air which again can be recycled for free diamonds. those machine can be powered by solar panels for a factory that essentially make stuff out of nothing. why are people keep freaking out that EE allows them to get 'free' stuffs? vanilla minecraft allows this, IC2 allows this, BC makes this REALLY easy, EE makes a LOT of stuff from other stuff. it's a video game. it's okay.
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Friday, October 21st 2011, 5:43pm
Spoiler
Friday, October 21st 2011, 5:50pm
Well, I just started using EE in conjunction with IC² and did some Math.
1 Obsidian = 8 Ice
1 Ice = 8 Glass | 1 Obsidian = 64 Glass
2 Glass = 3 Sand | 1 Obsidian = 96 Sand
4 Sand = 1 Sandstone | 1 Obsidian = 24 Sandstone
8 Sandstone = 1 Redstone Ore | 1 Obsidian = 3 Redstone Ore
4 Redstone Ore = 1 Iron Ore | 4 Obsidian = 12 Redstone Ore = 3 Iron Ore
4 Iron Ore = 1 Gold Ore | 16 Obsidian = 12 Iron Ore = 3 Gold Ore
4 Gold Ore = 8 Golddust = 8 Goldingots = 1 Diamond | 64 Obsidian = 12 Gold Ore = 24 Gold Ingots = 6 Diamonds
8 Obsidian = 1 Lapis Lazuli Ore
4 Lapis Lazuli Ore = 1 Diamond | 32 Obsidian = 1 Diamond
Could someone comment if I just miscalculated something? Because it strikes me as odd you would get half a Diamond extra per Obsidian Stack by going the long path even without macerating the Gold Ore.
You macerated the gold ore. 64 obsidian = 12 gold ore = 12 gold ingots = 2 diamonds.
64 Obsidian = 12 Gold Ore = 24 Gold Ingots = 6 Diamonds
Friday, October 21st 2011, 5:54pm
Yes I did, but even without macerating it would net me 12 Gold Ingots. At a rate of 4 Gold Ingots per Diamond, that would make 3 Diamonds, right?Well, I just started using EE in conjunction with IC² and did some Math.
1 Obsidian = 8 Ice
1 Ice = 8 Glass | 1 Obsidian = 64 Glass
2 Glass = 3 Sand | 1 Obsidian = 96 Sand
4 Sand = 1 Sandstone | 1 Obsidian = 24 Sandstone
8 Sandstone = 1 Redstone Ore | 1 Obsidian = 3 Redstone Ore
4 Redstone Ore = 1 Iron Ore | 4 Obsidian = 12 Redstone Ore = 3 Iron Ore
4 Iron Ore = 1 Gold Ore | 16 Obsidian = 12 Iron Ore = 3 Gold Ore
4 Gold Ore = 8 Golddust = 8 Goldingots = 1 Diamond | 64 Obsidian = 12 Gold Ore = 24 Gold Ingots = 6 Diamonds
8 Obsidian = 1 Lapis Lazuli Ore
4 Lapis Lazuli Ore = 1 Diamond | 32 Obsidian = 1 Diamond
Could someone comment if I just miscalculated something? Because it strikes me as odd you would get half a Diamond extra per Obsidian Stack by going the long path even without macerating the Gold Ore.You macerated the gold ore. 64 obsidian = 12 gold ore = 12 gold ingots = 2 diamonds.
64 Obsidian = 12 Gold Ore = 24 Gold Ingots = 6 Diamonds
vs 64 obsidian = 8 lapis ore = 2 diamonds.
Friday, October 21st 2011, 6:19pm
[Maybe they're figuring on the coal it'd take to smelt the gold, since you could convert it to diamond ore, but then need to use 1 coal per 7 diamond ore to make 7 diamonds ]
Friday, October 21st 2011, 6:32pm
Yaeah, sorry for that. As I mentioned above, it was a typo, and where I stated half a Diamond more for doing the long run without IC² was just fail in math on my side, tooHow about:
16 obsidian = 12 iron = 3 gold
.... 64 obsidian = 12 gold
12 gold = 1.5 diamonds ??? [nvm still 3 diamonds; EE is just plain silly -but you did skip a step somewhere ... nvm you confused me with the 4 gold ore = 8 dust = 8 ingots = 1 diamond (making me think 8 gold = 1 diamond)]
Friday, October 21st 2011, 6:39pm
Right, it's a whole diamond more, even without IC
Yaeah, sorry for that. As I mentioned above, it was a typo, and where I stated half a Diamond more for doing the long run without IC² was just fail in math on my side, too
