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41

Thursday, October 11th 2012, 3:33pm

Hey Pantheis Can i get permission to use this mod in my mod pack for my server?

~~Anders


Alright, since I've had a number of PM requests on this, let me address it here. This is the answer I've given everyone.

I don't personally have any issues with the mod being included in a modpack, as long as proper credit to myself and Tallinu (the other author) is given, but I believe it is against the IC2 terms to post mods for IC2 anywhere other than the IC2 forums. You may want to clear inclusion of this mod in your modpack with the IC2 team. If you can obtain their permission, you have mine as well.

42

Thursday, October 11th 2012, 5:12pm

Charging Bench updated!

VERSION NUMBER REVAMP-New versioning is Major.Minor.Build-IC2_Version instead of Minecraft version.Build-IC2_Version. This should not change again.
Latest version as of 10/11/2012 is 1.0.9-IC2_1.106.

Changes:
An active redstone signal will now disable the charging bench from accepting energy from the energy network. You can still charge items inside the bench and use the power slot to provide power to the bench, but it will not draw any energy from the network. Thanks for the idea, shadoskill!

Fixed a bug causing the charging bench to not notify blocks nearby properly when it's removing itself. This caused things like attached levers to not pop off.

Revamped versioning to be based on Jenkins ANT building of mod. New versioning is Major.Minor.Build-IC2_Version and it is now packaged inside a JAR file leading to a smaller release size.

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43

Friday, October 12th 2012, 6:08am

Charging Bench updated!

VERSION NUMBER REVAMP-New versioning is Major.Minor.Build-IC2_Version instead of Minecraft version.Build-IC2_Version. This should not change again.
Latest version as of 10/11/2012 is 1.0.9-IC2_1.106.

Changes:
An active redstone signal will now disable the charging bench from accepting energy from the energy network. You can still charge items inside the bench and use the power slot to provide power to the bench, but it will not draw any energy from the network. Thanks for the idea, shadoskill!

Fixed a bug causing the charging bench to not notify blocks nearby properly when it's removing itself. This caused things like attached levers to not pop off.

Revamped versioning to be based on Jenkins ANT building of mod. New versioning is Major.Minor.Build-IC2_Version and it is now packaged inside a JAR file leading to a smaller release size.
Haha nice, you have no idea how much this helps! Especially since my servers generator output is 70% less then default. :thumbsup:

44

Friday, October 12th 2012, 9:15pm

Im having a problem. I am playing on my own hamachi server with this addon and a bunch of other mods and a few ppl (im sure there are much more errors somewhere...)
but heres my problem:
we cant use any Charging benches. i mean when they are 'powered' we tested it a lot times but it wont work, we dont get a gui interface and the block it selfes also never changes (i mean the texture)
but we can place the bench somewhere on a solid block and we get an interface. when we power it then it wont work again^^
we have the newest version of the addon with newest version of ic for 1.3.2
i have uploaded a little video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4huktEjcgQ
i know that i didnt show much on the vid but its cause i was in my survival world and had not enough recoourses there
hope u can help me :)
im from austria so dont hate me cause of my grammar or something and if im doing something rly wrong and it isnt a bug so pls tell me this too, we are very new to this addon ..


I'm not really sure what could be causing the problems you are experiencing. When you say "powered", do you mean hooked up to a IC2 EU energy source or powered as in "powered by redstone", such as a lever or redstone torch?

Also, the video you uploaded is marked private and I can't view it. What specific version of Forge and IC2 are you using please? You may want to recreate a video showing exactly what steps you take to recreate the issue, showing the actual issue and showing whatever you mean by placing it on a solid block and then the GUI works. That way, we can figure out together what's happening and if it is a bug on our side, maybe track down what's going on.

45

Friday, October 12th 2012, 10:00pm

Just wanted to let people know that there's a minor new feature and a minor bugfix on the way soon(TM), along with a change to the amount of energy storage granted by upgrades in LV and HV benches.

What would you like to hear about first? The bad news or the good?

Let's start with the bug. It's just a display sync issue between client and server. If the bench's internal storage was reduced to zero (by charging items) since the last time you had the GUI open, the next time you opened the GUI it would still show whatever value it was showing last time you looked, both numerically and on the energy bar. The upcoming version will now sync the energy level correctly even if it's at zero.

Now for the new feature: The charging light. While the bench is transferring power into items (or out of a battery, too) a new indicator light on the block will be lit. You'll be able to toss in a bunch of power hungry items, walk away, and know with just a glance across the room whether they're ready to be picked up. And if you're trying to power up a bench that isn't hooked up to an energy source, you can see if it's time to swap out or retrieve an empty battery, energy crystal, or lapotron yet.

Spoiler Spoiler


Finally, and perhaps most importantly (if you have a lot of energy storage upgrades in an HV Charging Bench, that is)... Energy storage upgrades will no longer grant a flat 10% bonus to all three tiers of charging bench. The bonus per upgrade will vary between the three tiers of bench. The values are as follows.

LV Charging Bench:
+10,000 EU storage per upgrade (UP from 4,000 EU; the new value is 25% of base storage)

MV Charging Bench:
+60,000 EU storage per upgrade (No change; this is the same as the original 10% of base storage)

HV Charging Bench:
+500,000 EU storage per upgrade (DOWN from 1 million EU; the new value is 5% of base storage)

After looking at the bonus for each tier we decided they needed a little bit of re-balancing. The upgrade uses a RE Battery in the recipe, so adding only 4000 energy to the LV bench made no sense. The batbox it's built on gets 40,000 storage out of 3 batteries. Each upgrade should be able to add at least as much as one battery can store, so we bumped it up to match. We considered reducing the bonus amount for the MV bench from 60k to 50k but decided such a slight change wasn't worth the trouble. For the HV bench, though, having a single battery and a circuit grant as much energy storage as a lapotron crystal was beginning to look decidedly overpowered. On the other hand, decreasing it any more than this would result in storage upgrades either being practically useless in the HV bench or requiring downright crazy quantities of them to have a useful effect. In the end we decided that cutting the bonus in half was the best middle ground.

What does this change mean for you?

If you aren't using an HV bench, or you aren't using energy storage upgrades in your HV bench(es), you have absolutely nothing to worry about! But if you are, the maximum storage of your bench will decrease when you install this update. If you want to avoid losing any energy when that happens, there are several things you can do.

First, place a redstone torch or a lever (and turn it on) so that the bench won't accept more energy, assuming you have it hooked up to a power source.

Next, you have a couple options. You can craft enough energy storage upgrades to double the quantity in the bench and add them in before installing the next update, assuming this wouldn't put your total number of storage upgrades over the maximum of 64. If you do this, your total storage after the update will be the same as it is now.

The other option is to drain energy from the bench into items, such as lapotron crystals or quantum armor, until you've reduced the energy stored in the bench below the new cap. (I'd recommend taking out any overclockers while doing this, though, if you're trying to preserve the energy - otherwise the cost of charging the items will be greater.)

You can also combine these two approaches. And if you don't care about losing the excess energy, you don't really have to do anything at all - if that energy came from solar or water power, or other renewable sources, who cares if some of it disappears, right? :)

So that's your heads-up for the first "nerf" to this mod, coming soon(TM), once we're ready to post an update. We apologize for any inconvenience this change may cause, and hope that you will continue to enjoy the use of this mod. :)

This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "Tallinu" (Oct 12th 2012, 10:57pm)


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Sunday, October 14th 2012, 3:34am

I've got a Charging Bench setup, but it has no power coming through it whatsoever. It's ~3-4 blocks away from a BatBox, and as I said, is not connected at all to any powersource, as far as I know. Yet for some reason it will start to drain power from the BatBox. This happened with both LV and MV charging tables. The table has no items in it whatsoever, and if I move it a block or two away, then it stops charging.

There was no crash, no errors, so sadly no log to help.

EDIT: Note that as soon as I connect the BatBox to the Charging Bench, then disconnect shortly after, it keeps on charging still.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "ZephireNZ" (Oct 14th 2012, 3:39am)


47

Sunday, October 14th 2012, 3:42am

I'd love if you added text somewhere on the gui that said the charge rate (based off the overclockers used).

Also from what i understand in the highest tier bench a transformer upgrade doesn't do anything?

48

Sunday, October 14th 2012, 4:27am

I'd love if you added text somewhere on the gui that said the charge rate (based off the overclockers used).

Also from what i understand in the highest tier bench a transformer upgrade doesn't do anything?


The charge rate is item specific though, so we can't just put it on the base GUI. We're working on tooltips so you'll see the charge rate of an item, adjusted for overclockers, when you mouse over it. We don't know if we can do that without disrupting the awesome tooltips that NEI provides though. It's a work in progress.

I've got a Charging Bench setup, but it has no power coming through it whatsoever. It's ~3-4 blocks away from a BatBox, and as I said, is not connected at all to any powersource, as far as I know. Yet for some reason it will start to drain power from the BatBox. This happened with both LV and MV charging tables. The table has no items in it whatsoever, and if I move it a block or two away, then it stops charging.

There was no crash, no errors, so sadly no log to help.

EDIT: Note that as soon as I connect the BatBox to the Charging Bench, then disconnect shortly after, it keeps on charging still.


The issue here isn't with the Charging Bench, but with the IC2 energy net. There is a ghost bug in the Energy Network where cables and some other items don't invalidate when you remove them. It's highly annoying, and fixed in the beta and newer releases. Our charging bench properly invalidates when removed. The issue is with the cables. If you are playing on a server, restarting the server fixes it. So does leaving the area long enough for the chunk to unload, usually. If you're playing single player, I don't know.

49

Monday, October 15th 2012, 10:12am

Hey Pantheis Can i get permission to use this mod in my mod pack for my server?

~~Anders


Alright, since I've had a number of PM requests on this, let me address it here. This is the answer I've given everyone.

I don't personally have any issues with the mod being included in a modpack, as long as proper credit to myself and Tallinu (the other author) is given, but I believe it is against the IC2 terms to post mods for IC2 anywhere other than the IC2 forums. You may want to clear inclusion of this mod in your modpack with the IC2 team. If you can obtain their permission, you have mine as well.


Actually the IC2 redistribution terms were recently changed.
[NEW] IC² Policy regarding ModPacks / Redistribution

Would be an idea to update the readme files included in this mod to reflect that.
// First, try to add to a nearby chest
// Second, try to add to adjacent pipes
// Lastly, throw the object away
code comments in Buildcraft litterbug quarry

50

Monday, October 15th 2012, 3:57pm

Actually the IC2 redistribution terms were recently changed.
[NEW] IC² Policy regarding ModPacks / Redistribution. Would be an idea to update the readme files included in this mod to reflect that.


I saw the new policy, but my understanding was that it applied to the main IC2 download, not addons for IC2. Nowhere in that new policy regarding modpacks for IC2 does it mention addons for IC2, just the main IC2 download, ((in any combination with other files or mods) seems to indicate that other files may be included in the ModPack, and that IC2 can be included along side other mods without restriction as to which ones) and this has not been updated either. This leads me to believe that they are okay with IC2 being included in ModPacks under the conditions spelled out above, but they still want addons that are solely for IC2 to be distributed through their forums.

If an IC2 dev tells me I'm wrong on my understanding of their policies, I'll be happy to correct the readme. Until then, as I said in the readme, I don't have a problem with modpacks for this mod as long as the person gets permission from the IC2 devs. :)

51

Monday, October 15th 2012, 7:40pm

Quoted

The discharging ability from the old table didn't make much sense to me so it was removed.

It proved to be extremely useful when dealing with charging and discharging large groups of crystals for storage and energy transfer from one location to another.

It's a lot less tedious to deal with 12 crystals at a time instead of 1 while discharging.

52

Monday, October 15th 2012, 8:45pm

I liked that ability because it was a cheap way to power machines that can't handle higher voltages and can't have voltage transformers (like miner) using crystals. But now its much more expensive so it does not matter if you use MFE or charging bench.

heatheriac

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53

Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 5:12am

Bug?

So I'm using pretty much all the latest:
MC 1.3.2
FML: 3.1.35.394
Forge 4.2.5.303
IC2 1.107.35
Charge Bench 1.0.9-IC2_1.106

And built a HV bench wired into an MV power grid with fiber cable. A cable coming into the bottom of the bench wouldn't charge (gui stuck at 0 and no items charging) and a cable coming from underneath, one block over (so that it right angle's directly into the side of the bench) had the same problem. I'm having to have a completely straight cable for one block coming into the side of the table for it to take a charge. Has anyone else seen this?

54

Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 5:20am

So I'm using pretty much all the latest:
MC 1.3.2
FML: 3.1.35.394
Forge 4.2.5.303
IC2 1.107.35
Charge Bench 1.0.9-IC2_1.106

And built a HV bench wired into an MV power grid with fiber cable. A cable coming into the bottom of the bench wouldn't charge (gui stuck at 0 and no items charging) and a cable coming from underneath, one block over (so that it right angle's directly into the side of the bench) had the same problem. I'm having to have a completely straight cable for one block coming into the side of the table for it to take a charge. Has anyone else seen this?


We have not seen this yet, but I"ll take a look and see if I can duplicate it. Do you get any errors in your console?

heatheriac

Unregistered

55

Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 5:24am

We have not seen this yet, but I"ll take a look and see if I can duplicate it. Do you get any errors in your console?
Haven't run it in a console setting, but I can do that if you think it helps. I'll post results

56

Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 5:29am

So I'm using pretty much all the latest:
MC 1.3.2
FML: 3.1.35.394
Forge 4.2.5.303
IC2 1.107.35
Charge Bench 1.0.9-IC2_1.106

And built a HV bench wired into an MV power grid with fiber cable. A cable coming into the bottom of the bench wouldn't charge (gui stuck at 0 and no items charging) and a cable coming from underneath, one block over (so that it right angle's directly into the side of the bench) had the same problem. I'm having to have a completely straight cable for one block coming into the side of the table for it to take a charge. Has anyone else seen this?
This is a really strange one. I just tested a number of configurations with an MFE power source and glass fiber cable, trying to duplicate this problem, and couldn't. Can you give us any more information, and/or screenshots including the power source(s) and location of the bench? What's the cable length? What's supplying power to it? Are there other blocks drawing power from the same cable? Etc.
Also, if you place some other IC2 machine such as a MFE in the bench's location, does it suffer from the same problem or work normally?

heatheriac

Unregistered

57

Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 5:40am

Solved

I just found the problem. It's an "undocumented feature" (read: bug) in a different way. The first two ways I was testing had the bench sitting next to a switch that keeps my induction furnace warm. Apparently a redstone signal stops the bench from taking in power. As soon as I turned the switch off for the oven, the bench started sucking in full power, and turned it back on, the bench stopped charging. I'm about to test this in a creative environment with an emitter.

heatheriac

Unregistered

58

Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 5:47am

Verified in a new creative world with a MV emitter, two units of fiber cable to an HV bench, two redstone and a switch. Powered the emitter and everything worked exactly like in my main world. So bug/undocumented redstone behavior, either way, it's fixed.

59

Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 5:48am

Actually, the redstone disabling EU intake is a documented feature in the latest update. :)

heatheriac

Unregistered

60

Tuesday, October 16th 2012, 5:51am

Actually, the redstone disabling EU intake is a documented feature in the latest update. :)
Silly Heather, not checking the github ... karma has a way of working it's magic