Block Extruder like Block Cutter

  • This came about because of the sheer number of motors / copper wires needed in nuclear fluid engineering. Why not have a "Block Extruder" for wires the way there is a "Block Cutter" for plates? it could use an extruding die that could run out over time, and would turn one block of metal into 27 wires (or 36 for gold / iron) at once. It would only work with tin, copper, gold and iron.

  • The block cutter is basically a glorified sawmill at the moment.

    145 Mods isn't too many. 9 types of copper and 8 types of tin aren't too many. 3 types of coffee though?

    I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realise that what you read was not what I meant.


    ---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
    // I just don't know what went wrong :(


    I see this too much.

  • I can use the hammer to make 80 plates at once for 6 iron; there is no way to make 3 wires per bar except with the machine. If I use clippers it's only 2 wires, using 50% more material (not acceptable when you first make your nuclear reactor)


    Math:
    43 motors from my reactor setup for component heat vents, overclocked heat vents and advanced heat vents.
    let's say 3 dense ejector build-outs, 1 puller build-out = 4 motors
    47 motors * 16 wires each = 751 wires, / 3 per bar = 251 bars of copper for one reactor into wire.


    251 bars at 3 seconds per bar = 12.5 minutes waiting for wire. If you pre-cut the wire, would need 12 spaces to hold them all; basically a chest just for wire (and plates, let's not be silly about storage). If I forget, it will take minutes to get the wire I need.


    If the clippers made wire at 3:1, it would be acceptable. Frankly, I haven't tested them in some time; it may have changed.

  • Overclocking combined with just making more machines makes the process much faster. To make doing it manually better is strange and backwards logic compared to the rest of the mod.


    The hammer should really take 2 ingots per plate, and the only reason it likely doesn't is it'd make early game too expensive.

    145 Mods isn't too many. 9 types of copper and 8 types of tin aren't too many. 3 types of coffee though?

    I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realise that what you read was not what I meant.


    ---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
    // I just don't know what went wrong :(


    I see this too much.

  • I still think a method for making wire faster would be a good thing. There are dedicated extruders in real life; why not in Minecraft?


    Alternately, how many overclockers does it take to make a machine work 9x faster, and how many transformer upgrades would it take to power the machine at that level? Alternately, do you have a bank of metal formers in your workshop in minecraft, and if so, do you find that level of repetition enjoyable?


    My goal it to keep the upgrading and building enjoyable. I did not find making 1500 wires enjoyable because of the time it took. I am suggesting some way to make that time get reduced.

  • I still think a method for making wire faster would be a good thing. There are dedicated extruders in real life; why not in Minecraft?

    Because you end up with a machine that does one thing and kind of feels redundant. The block cutting machine is very much far from a key machine, and if people want fast plates they don't even use it, they just make hammers. An extruder would fair little better.

    Alternately, how many overclockers does it take to make a machine work 9x faster, and how many transformer upgrades would it take to power the machine at that level?

    6 would make it work ~9x faster, and that'd take ~168 EU/t for the metal former, which considering it's tier 1, would mean you'd need 2. Not ideal as it ends up being just under 2x more expensive per plate/wire/whatever but it's going to do it a hell of a lot faster. You could even work around it with some energy storage upgrades, you could probably get away with it being tier 1 (ie no transformer upgrades) if you supplied it with multiple packets of energy per tick.

    Alternately, do you have a bank of metal formers in your workshop in minecraft, and if so, do you find that level of repetition enjoyable?

    A bank of machines is not a workshop at all but a factory, which I find a fun project to build. IC2 as a mod works well in factory type situations as slightly overclocking lots of machines is the best way to go about speeding up production without having insane energy costs.


    Repetition is crafting it all by hand which is absolutely no fun at all, not least because of all the times you'd have to empty your inventory out. Advanced Machines did have an upgraded form of each mode of the metal former (like the induction furnace is to the electric furnace), and I'd say if you wanted any kind of upgraded form you'd want something like that rather than another slow, low tier machine.

    145 Mods isn't too many. 9 types of copper and 8 types of tin aren't too many. 3 types of coffee though?

    I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realise that what you read was not what I meant.


    ---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
    // I just don't know what went wrong :(


    I see this too much.

  • A machine, that only does things, that other machines also do, but nothing more is a bad machine imo, since it can only do that specific thing. And it doesn't even do it much better than the metal former, since you can overclock that one. As I said, it would be similar to the Block Cutting machine, that is barely used atm and a pretty much useless machine.