Posts by BrodaciousCoyote

Quote from Enzer

Oh, I didn't even notice that FC dropped Forge, then yeah, that kind of makes his whole BTBC mod a bit of a stink. And is Space Toad raging against Forge? I haven't been paying attention to that drama, though I feel it is a shame that people have been making a fuss at Eloraam over how her mod has progressed, she is honestly one of the few level headed moderators I've seen and from the few short conversations I've had where she was answering some of my questions, is a very kind person.

Either way, yeah, I agree FC is kind of digging himself into a hole if hes making a stink about Forge and then shitting himself when hes getting a ton of complaints that his mod wont work with other Forge mods. Really funny because isn't Forge part of the crew working with Jeb on the official API? Will FC quit modding all together when Forge is an official part of Minecraft? No what, nevermind, I really do not want to talk about FC anymore.

Yeah Space Toad has been pissy since Eloraam added tubes. Which Eloraam addressed on her blog .

Quote from Enzer

Actually, looking at the "Better Then Buildcraft" mod, all it seems to be is a separate mod that allows you to have cross functionality between BTW and Buildcraft, which is great actually and proves a few of my points. It is good to see mods developers starting to think about providing compatibility between mods so that mod packs are not needed. I don't think it is a shame that Space Toad agreed to that, I think that people should have the right to make compatibility mods without authorization (put too many restrictions on the community and nothing will grow). I even understand why FC put BTBC as a separate mod, so as to cut down on code for BTW if you don't happen to play with BuildCraft, though I am a bit confused since I thought his stance was that he didn't want his mod having cross over interactions between others, so I am guessing that this is a temporary thing until his own mod's level of technology builds up to that point. I honestly don't have that much problem with BTW, I like the windmills and watermills and mechanical power is fun to play with, it is just that there is a lot of.. I guess I would call it bloat, that makes things a bit creepy and is not something I would wish to have my younger siblings play around with, I also really do not like the author, but that is neither here nor there.

Like Forge? There has been attempts at making compatibility, they are the things Flowerchild and Space Toad are raging against specifically and cited as the reason they're making their own. They aren't gods of compatibility. Eloraam has been doing this for a long time, creating compatibility between her mod, BC and IC2, for instance. And the claims she is copying, when so many of these ideas are rather obvious (Getting angry over manufacturing paper from the same plants? Getting angry over pipes? Pipes are a thing, they aren't some amazing idea that's never been tried before, humans have been using them for thousands of years.) It'd be like looking at someone making a mod that adds a new pickaxe and going, "YOU STOLE THAT FROM VANILLA!" I mean, it's a million times more convenient than Minefactory style conveyor belts, self-contained piping systems means nothing can interfere with the transportation of items. It's just reasoning. Basically what I'm saying is that they're not doing this in support of the community; it seems more like they're doing this in spite of community members. I mean, just look at the 180 from "This shouldn't be used with other mods" to "I made a compatibility mod with Buildcraft!".

Quote from MagusUnion

The only reason they removed BTW was because Goons hated the title changes and other quirky alterations BTW does when you fire it up (which I'll agree to, because several of those title splashes were unnerving). Plus, after several long bitch-fit pages of flaming, Kakermix decided the mod wasn't worth the trouble of pissing FC off, simply due to the very slow style of game play that mod has...

And in that regard, it appears that FC would rather create 'Better than -insert mod here-' mixes now with his design, seeing as that he's released a Buildcraft version of BTW that isn't Forge reliant at all. I'm guessing that he needed to 'steal' something so that someone would still play his mod? Regardless, it's a damn shame Spacetoad actually agreed that he could do this in the first place...

There's also the fact Flowerchild is really an awful coder. That wasn't just ad hominem attacks being thrown about; he tied one of his blocks directly into Minecraft's fire code. What that meant was if his mod had a problem, things like lightning had a tendency to crash and corrupt the world. This was also a factor in the removal of his mod. The fact he's gone so far out of his way to make his mod incompatible with others, on purpose, except those he chooses, continues the whole 'Wow the Minecraft community is amazingly bad' idea most outsiders have. He's really the worst offender in the community, which is what makes him such a good example of what's wrong. I'm not surprised he picked up Spacetoad, they've both been pretty butthurt about Eloraam doing what they do, but better. Despite the fact Forge was made for mods share ideas, through the ore compatibility sections of Forge, for instance...

But hey, if they choose to make their mods harder for people to get into, and kill their own publicity, they can feel free.

Quote from MagusUnion

Flower who? You guys still on that?

Actually seems like YOU are the ones pushing the conspiracy card more than anyone else. Besides, who are you to say what's good for a community that's existed an entire two years prior to your involvement?

We've been involved the entire time. Painterly is made by one of our guys, after all. Flowerchild just makes a perfect representative for exactly what's wrong with the community, but if you'd prefer, I could use the crazy guy who yelled at his friend in band simply because his friend tried a mod pack. I mean, that's a level of crazy obsession that really hurts everyone's view of your average Minecraft player.

What conspiracy? You are the one that equated Goonswarm with everyone on the SomethingAwful forums, which is equivalent to saying everyone for animal rights is a member of the PETA, every vegetarian is vegan, and every Democrat is a Socialist. You're really the last one who should be throwing stones in this plate glass house.

Quote from Misticblade7

So Power Crystals is no longer maintaining his mods.

Some things I found to be of note:

For the mods themselves, I am turning the source over to the Technic team (and specifically TehKrush) who have pledged to update them. Be nice to them!

I'll probably be in the technic pack IRC because those guys are the best and deserve all your support.

Did PC always support them, or was he hacked?

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Hacked? That's kind of ranging into crazy conspiracy territory. Powercrystals has been with Technic pretty much since he started modding. He was the one who started programming bridges between IC2 and BC by changing EU to oil and back, specifically for the Technic pack. He's been one of the biggest Technic pack supporters in the modding side, frequently took suggestions, and hung around to troubleshoot. Shame to see him go, but life does take precedence! TehKrush will do it justice, I'm sure.

And this is a sign of real community: rather than let his mods fall off a cliff to oblivion, he's passing it on to someone who will upkeep it. This is more than someone like Flowerchild would do, as his mod is his baby, and he refuses to give up an inch of attention. That is why the community looks bad.