Posts by Alblaka

Quote from urmamasllama

lappacks and cf packs auto refill also lappacks can not be crafted only spawned

you need to increase the cf per use to 14 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/20111204142646.png/ attached image for reasoning
to clarify what happened here is using reinforced scaffolding this is how big of a platform you can make the problem is the way the sprayer places leaves you with two empty blocks. if they put out 14 instead it should fix the problem

you can not turn off a luminator with redstone

eu splitter does not evenly split eu

iridium plates are not craftable

thats what me and some guys on IR have found so far

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Please define "autorefill".
As well, did you use a FULLY empty'd (or filled) Batpack for crafting the lappack?

I will not increase the CFs count to match building of a random structure x

Luminators cannot be turned off with redstone. Don't see a bug there.

Splitter cable != IC1 splitter. It's meant to "split the cable" upon being redstoned and will cut off any energy flow.

Quote from Xagroth

Also, for some reason the geothermal generators generate tons of fps loss when charging any storage device (luminators, batboxes, etc...), at least for a while.

EDIT: The CF batpack was "unloaded"... but how in the hell do I charge it with foam???? I tried some things with both the pellets and the construction foam, to no avail

Random guess, geothermals tend to flicker on/off when "overpowering" (providing more EUt then the whole line can handle). This usually causes network updates, texture updates and sound updates. Put a large enough storage behind them.

CF Batpacks can be recharged in the Canning Machine. Should have mentioned that.

Quote from TSR_Viper

I think the estimate on first release was around March.

He said, noone should exspect any release as soon as March.

Which translates into:
"DONT HYPE, it will take LONG to develope the API. In a perfect situation, which will not occur, the releas could be scheduled for March".

:3
We hit the version 1.33 and i couldn't resist adding a 7.
But it wasn't planned or aimed for, in fact.

"ElectricBlocks" is actually the official term for Transformers+Storages, but i actually meant the ElectricSTORAGEBlocks... just too long to type :3

Je, we will rework the electricstorageblocks either way. With the new cables the "add redstone to stop current" function is useless. Instead they will EMIT redstone when being full. PRobably coming in next (1.0?) release.

Righclick with battery/crystal or place them onto a wire.

Quote from Marval

BatBox, MFE and MFSU don't emit energy when EUD is connect to Batbox, MFE or MFSU

Duh? Ofc they dont, if redstone is applied their meant to shut off. And if you place a redstone emitting cable next to them...

Quote from Corbald

Only bugs I have found so far are in regards to the EU-Detector cable.

1) Cable does not stop reporting current when a machine finishes all jobs. To replicate: Generator -> copper cable -> EUD -> copper cable -> macerator. Load generator with combustibles and allow it to fill up both machines internal storage. Place a macerateable in the applicable machine. Wait for the job to finish AND for the genny to stop consuming it's current fuel source. The EU-Detector will stay red, even though the EU-meter reads 0EU/t.

2) EUD does not connect to red power cables (at least the basic, un-insulated kind). Just thought you should know ;D (The EU switch wire doesn't connect either.)

1) Yes, we're on to the issue. Something seems to have gone wrong after the last successfull tests
2) Happens with many machines, they do not accept "indirect" redstone links. Which redpower wires appear to be. Just place one piece of normal redstone in between.

Quote from Direwolf20

Its also one of the more complicated mods out there so will take a little longer to update to v1.00 than some of the others might.

It's rather the fact i'm (as it's lead developer) currently extremely limited regarding free time, due to the SWProject for my studys ^^'. We're gonna work on the port next up (given no hotfixes for 1337 are ned).

Hmm... Given both my tests previously went entirely fine (one before, one after player optimized the code), we need to find the exact reason when and why it happens.

Known, 8th time this is reported, please use the search function, fixed for next release.

Changelogs, lots of them:

1.23 > 1.30

-Reactors shouldn't redirect BC-Pipe input into invalid slots (causing stuff to be ejected right away) anymore 
-Same for Mass Fabricator
-Performance fixes for ElectricBlocks
-NPW crash fix for Reactor
-Overhaul of Scrapbox procentages, gl trying to farm diamonds
-Recyclers can recycle any material again
-Suddenly... HOES!
-Increased stability of the Enet.
-Tools now no longer use up remaining points of energy if the energy is to low to actually perform an action (mainly applyable for mining laser)
-Chainsaws and miners can harvest String from web.
-Breaking the Tip of a miner's mining pipe will now drop mining pipe and not the invalid tip-block.
-Fixed wrenches causing obscure drops upon apllying to cables.
-Increased SMP-network efficiency
-Fixed bugs causing nearby Quantumsuits to influence each other in SMP
-ElectricBlocks display now doesn't exceed the exspected values (since they actually CAN store slightly more energy then maximum displayed)
-Added fix for equipped pumpkin crashes
-Nuclear Reactors don't access diagonally adjavent chambers anymore (damn bugs)
-Teleporting costs are now slightly less influenced by range.
-PersonalSages will now give out text messages if you cannot access them, as well as being unwrenchable if there is still content within (to prevent accidental losses)
-Fixed rare "Unlimitd Battery" bug
-Theoretical support of lang-files for translations
-Optimized teleportation code in regard of server loading chunks
-Trade-O-Mat is now easier to use
-Solar Panels are now far less CPU-costly while determining sun visibility
-Solar Panels are now aware of weather influences
-Solar Panel recipe was changed to use Circuits insteadof Cables again
-Nuclear Reactors now provide 2x the energy
-Water Buckets are much less powerful cooling ingridents for reactors now
-HDs won't sit on their last point of damage forever anymore (making them craftable after cooling down, again)
-You don't take falldamage anymore if you have RubberBoots equipped and fall into a ladder
-Running Macerators give off smoke particles
-Compressors can now be combined with Pumps to create snow from infinite water sources.
-Watermill recipe now gives 2 Watermills (as it was actually intended in first place)
-Generators and GeoGenerators now consume fuel(and produce energy) x2 as fast
-Fuel was recalculated and should be actually a valid way of increasing energy gain
-Using saplings for crafting plantclumps gives 2 of them (to compensate for the amount of energy saplings can produce by burning
-You only need 1 plantclump for a fuel cell anymore
-Fixed Quantum Helmet recipe
-Added config toggle for CTRL or WW Quantum Speed
-Fixed Electrolyzer GUI
-Backpacks shouldn't be accounted as armor by minecrafts engine anymore (Do not absorb/take damage)
-Mining Laser got slightly rebalanced (will probably get a more intensive redo in future). Most modes use less energy now.
- CF Sprayers can now be used to "fill up" Scaffolds by rightclicking them. The foam will EXCLUSIVELY fill the scaffoldblocks (will drop scaffold). Easier to use for building stuff.
-You can now use Sand (rightclick) to instantly those pesky foam blocks who continously deny to harden.
-Painters now have 32 uses total (with no increase in dye costs).
-UUM Recipes for black/borwn dye and resin added.
-QunatumSuit Speedboost is now capped (still extremely fast, but cannot become faster then the speed at which the engine loads chunks)
-Mining Pipes don't suffocate anymore

1.30 > 1.32

-Miner causing a crash upon hittin cables should be fixed now
-Fixed a bug causing Solars not to produce energy properly
-Fixed a bug with Painter going blank after 16 uses
-Fixed Batterys flickering when holding rightclick while pointing at blocks
-Improved CF-Spraying algorythm to work better with Scaffolds
-Fixed rubber boots refilling themselves on occasion
-Added a fix for Electric Blocks to never display an EU amount higher then their maximum
-Fixed a bug causing QuantumHelmet to refill itself
-Reduced the energy cost for QuantumHelmet food regeneration
-Vastly increased the effectiveness of NanoSabre
-Scaffolds were recoded with recursion to make them more CPU-efficient. This will most likely cause all currently existing scaffolds-constructs to break down, though.
-Iridium Plating is now even more expensive, consisting of Iridium Ore and Alloy (I Ore can be obtained via UUM)
-Added Lappack, an advanced Batpack
-Mining Laser, Scanners and NanoSabre draw energy from Lappacks
-CFPack recipe added, does now store up to 128 pellets.
-Holding shift will prevent any sort of GUI from opening (means you can easier place stuff on machines)

1.32 > 1.337

-Added dictionary support for Bronze and Refined Iron
-Added Luminators
-Reworked Windmill mechanics
-Added Detector and Splitter cable
-Increased Tin-Cable capacity to 5 EUt
-Updated GeothermalGenerator GUI
-Spraying upon Scaffolds drops them again
-Lappack recipe made slightly more expensive
-Lappacks now properly work with high-energy gadgets
-QHelemt takes 2x more energy to refill hungre
-Miners cannot mine each others mining pipes anymore

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This is it. IC², the future of IC.
While playing it, you will feel right at home again, rediscovering most of the stuff known from IC. However, once you get your machines running, you will quickly notice how smooth and well-designed everything works now. Wiring is easier, batterys aren't as twosided (on/off) anymore, new cables, rubber stuff, new machines, EVERYTHING was added.
Create obstacle courses of Metal Poles and Rubber-Sheets, explore the Nether with an Electrical Jetpack or blow up whole landscapes at once by using the Dynamite-O-Mote. Or discover the much more complex mechanisms of Nuclear Engineering, blow up your hut or burn your hands. Or grab the rusty ol Composite Vest, and start hunting Creepers with the new, allmighty NanoSaber.

It's up to you, it's MINEcraft after all.

How to install, how to report errors, how to NOT bug the IC² developers:

What do i need to install IndustrialCraft / Prerequisite ?

• Risugami's ModLoader Beta 1.8.1
• Flan's ModLoaderMP Client 1.8.1
• SpaceToad's/Eloraam's MCForge Client 1.1.2 or later

It's strongly recommended to install these prequesite mods in the listed order onto a freshly downloaded minecraft.jar for optimum results.
Do not forget to delete the META-INF folder if you didn't delete it already.

How to install the Mod itself:
DOWNLOAD
You can (and actually, must) install IC² by dropping the downloaded JAR-file into your mods-folder. If there is none, install ModLoader and just start-up minecraft once for it to be automatically created. It is located inside your .minecraft directory.

If you get any sort of crashes or errors, consider first reading the FAQ, before bugging the Support section:

If you want to report Bugs; we got a Bug-Section for that purpouse.

If you got questions, considere browsing through the official IC wiki.
Note: It's the official wiki, nontheless coders of IC² are not actively updating it. Any information found/provided there can be incorrect or entirely false.

You can download a artificially generated Recipe-File here!

Or pay the Dev-Team's official YT-PR-Manager a visit:

How to setup your own IC²-Server:
First of all, you'll need to download and setup a normal MC-server. Once that's all working and you tested whether other people can connect, proceed to downloading the necessary components:

• Flan's ModLoaderMP Server 1.8.1
• SpaceToad's/Eloraam's MCForge Server 1.1.2 or later

Then grab your IC²-server files, HERE.
As with the client, just drop it into the mods-folder of your server directory.
Done
You may now want to start up the server once to generate the config file and then proceed to build awesome Industrial Worlds with your friends.

If you're looking for a server, check out the Server-Section of this forum.
Or just directly grab your reserverd slot on
Industrial Rage

IC² now provides are more or less well documented API.
If you're a modder yourself and want to create a mod implementing IC²s features, download THIS file, and add it's contents to your source-setup (MCP ned). By using the provided classes and interfaces you can in this manner create a mod using IC² features without requiring the whole IC² sourcecode.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, CREDITS
Firstly, we would like to thank the whole MCP team. Without their work, modifying Minecraft would be MUCH more complicated and time-consuming.
Additionally, thanks go to Risugami, Flan and the MCForge team, a big mod like IC² just can't live without all these base-modifications.
As well, i would on this spot thank my developer team personally:

• Player - Coder & Co-Leader of IC²
• alexthesax - Coder
• Drashian - Coder
• elementalist - Coder
• Feanturi - Spriter
• tahu44 Modeller
• Lurch1985 Sound Artist
• The whole set of Beta-Testers, who i constantly annoyed by throwing buggy new versions at them while smiting every of their bugreport with a casual "It's not a bug, it's a feature".

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As well, noone besides the author and persons elected by the author are allowed to provide any download links. Everyone else is NOT allowed to public any sort of download, though he/she may hand out links to this website/thread instead.
Exspecially it is EXPLICITELY NOT allowed for anyone besides the author to earn any money by using this content's existence. This includes adfly, site advertisment and donations.
Any of the limitations above can be nullified by an explicite permission of the author.

Addendum I:
Trivially, all sites associated with and/or hosted by Alblaka or any member of the IC²-Dev-Team are allowed to provide content and/or links to content freely.
This addendum mainly refers to any downloads hosted via the IC² wiki.

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-A link to this thread must be provided, clearly visible under/next-to the media element(s).

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Any sort of modifications to the original IC² code may be created and published within the Addons-Section of this forum. The addon download must not contain any IC² files except the ones modified and of course the new files themselves.

Detector and Splitter Cables will be included in the 1.337 release.

Both are made of HV cables, redstone and some smaler ingridents and are capable of transmittinh any voltage strength with acceptable low lost (they're still too exensive and way to unstylish to build whole networkds exclusively of them, though).
Detector cables will update once each second, emitting redstone if any current passed by within the last second.
Splitter cables will update each second and "disconnect" from the adjacent cables if powered by redstone.

The second-delays are necessary, because there could be issues with too intense CPU-load otherwise.

Quote from cvl4317

Solar doesnt detect if there is item that block the path to the sky. So, during the day, underground, it will still work

EU detector cable has a problem to Turn Off after no more input (like solar no more outputting power). It is 'updated' by updating the cable network, placing a new cable etc.

@Solars: That's why i didn't use the static lightmap and wrote my own iterator :O Player insisted on testing the more efficiet (this) implementation though. Thanks for bringing it up.
@Detector: Could you provide some information? F.e. a screen of the set-up. So far everything worked right with it, over here.

Btw, i recommended Eloraam to add a un-echantable hook in McForge (similar to the un-repairable hook). If implemented i will use that one for disabling vanilla enchantments on all IC items :3 Simple as that.

Quote from killerbeez

How about allowing an eu reader to check the storage of a lum? And be able to paint them or just add dye to the recipe. Can they also be turned on and off with redstone?

Don't see much of a reason not to add that EU Reader functionality.
Painting could be possible, though i don't see much of a point in that, unless Jeb adds dynamically colored lightning.
Cannot be turned off with redstone, though i considered that feature.

Quote from Gorni

-Added dictionary support for Bronze and Refined Iron don't know how to test?
-Added Luminators work except for the mentioned bugs, additionally are they really planned to be removed on destruction?
-Reworked Windmill mechanics need more info to test
-Added Detector and Splitter cable work nice, i like them!
-Increased Tin-Cable capacity to 5 EUt
-Updated GeothermalGenerator GUI looks good
-Spraying upon Scaffolds drops them again works
-Lappack recipe made slightly more expensive good recipe
-Lappacks now properly work with high-energy gadgets works
-QHelemt takes 2x more energy to refill hungre energy amount is good i think
-Miners cannot mine each others mining pipes anymore

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Yes, luminators are "cheap" now. Wanted them to rival torchs in being cheaply avaible, balanced by them not being re-pickable.

Windmills are now balanced to the maximum height of 255. As well, Storms and (to lesser extent) Rain increase their production. If the produced energy exceeds 5 EUt (total theoriical max is somewhere above 11 Eut) there's a change to break (and the display in the GUI will start displaying in red).

Thanks for the neat testing guys
Once we've fixed up the repository (some corrupted hardlink on my drive caused me to override some files multiple times >.> ) we will compile the final version. Somewhen in ~10 hours, after a good bag of sleep XD.

I think i will offer casual "multitier" objects...
A basic Stone-Iron overclocker giving like 20% boost fpor 50% more consumption.
An advanced Iron-Cable overclocker granting 50% boost for 150% more consumption
Next would be an super-advanced Diamond-Alloy overclocker with 100% boost for 400% more consumption
The increased scaling of consumption is intended.

And a redstone-gunpowder overclocker, granting 150% boost, 100% more consumption and overheat/explosion danger :3

If Albos is done, it will receive an own forum.

Quote from killerbeez

Should the ones on the wall link together?

No, Luminators don't (yet) interact with each other. Their form depends on 1. the placing (wall/ceiling/ground) and 2nd on whether they're placed against a cable (in which case they will always turn into some covering panel of sorts).

Quote from imer

Suggestion:
How about removing the "only emit energy when full" option when redstoned and let storage blocks emit redstone when they are full?

Great idea. Gonna implement that one asap.

Quote from Talonius

A luminator sucks up about 10k EU when initcaily placed, I'm not sure if that's intentional or not.

Edit: Recipe Book shows two recipes for the Lappack (one needing 4 lapis blocks, the other needing 6)
and on the same note there's still two recipes for ITNT (one needing 6 flint, the other needing two glowstone, a circuit and a cable)

Yes, luminators now hold a whole battery worth of energy. I wanted them to be usable without cables (you can charge them with rightclicking, battery/crystal)

Guess that double'd recipe is a result of some merge-trouble we had XD
The glowstone thing sounds like the dynamiteomote? No clue, gonna check it.

edit:
The double recipe was a cause of me only changing ONE recipe. lappack has 2, one for empty batpacks, one for full ones.
Dunno about the glowstone-TNT recipe, doesnt make sense at all. removed it.