Posts by FenixR

Quote from n1ght5talker

My bad, I thought IC was covered by the same kind of copyright most others mods have. I kind of expected to have issues if I released a mod that was 99% IC code with a few changes of my own. Maybe I should look into IC and see if I want to create my own industrial craft type of mod, as much as I love IC I share many of the concerns the OP has.

IC2 still have the kind of copyright most other mods have, Bugfixes where considered an exception so they are considered or categorized as an Addon (In that particular thread)

Quote from Monoxide

I *have* read the entire thread, so I'll throw in my two cents. What if, as a compromise, the reactor's texture was changed so that it looked like there was a turbine/generator built into it?

What sort of stupid compromise is that if everyone and their dogs can re-make any and all IC2 textures, including the nuclear reactor?

And more importantly, compromise of what?

Quote from Kane Hart

I noticed your whole thread was just a wall of text that said insult this insult that. Did you actually come here to add anything worthwhile to the discussion or did you feel this was a good time to brown nose? This not a thread of what you like to rate out a video but talking about you feelings about IC and its current state and hell if you like to suggest improvements and etc go ahead.

Sadly your title and the content of the first post means this is a thread specifically for talking about your video. (That i have no intention to watch, i fucking hate watching those time wasters, specially when i know its gonna be a shitty time waster)

Hamachi can also be used, since afaik that program emulate a Lan over the web.

Wow i knew time was gold, but man i think you can afford a second or two to aim at a button.

You can always place preassure plates inside and buttons outside.

Something happens when you place the uranium in the reactor, because without uranium that something doesn't happen PERIOD, its a nuclear reactor so working in any other way its stupid (Or at the very least it would not be a stupid nuclear reactor in the first place, and don't bother with the part that you can use other radioactive stuff [In case you actually can of course], because the only "Nuclear" material in Ic2 its uranium). Saying that uranium produce energy its slightly accurate, because without it nothing would be produced (Although when you start looking at the details its where it shows thats its actually the heat from the uranium that produces the energy).

What is that something that happens when you place a Uranium in the reactor? In minecraft its anyones guess to determine what happens inside it until al suddenly decides to make an essay explaining how the nuclear reactor (in minecraft) works in detail... In my head, the Nuclear planner its only half of whats happening in the nuclear reactor, the other half happens somewhere hidden inside the nuclear reactor working like "Magic".

And please, there are two types of magic in game logic:

There is "Ohhhh Magiiiicc" which is under the realm of Harry Potter and shit with wands and all that.

And then there is "Magic" in which something simply works and you don't have a good explanation or reason as to why its working. An example of this is the BC Quarry, out of fucking nowhere it appears a lot of cranes and drills and metal tubes and shit that drills blocks below it and then it "Magically" appears in the original quarry block you placed. See you know there is a logic to all of it, and its quite possible for it to happen, but you can really explain how it happens. (Especially the part in which all of those cranes and drills and metal tubes and shit appears from a small block)

And rick, forget anything you knew about the old nuclear reactors, since al effort was exactly to make it completely different from the old layouts of nuclear reactors so they don't all look like the same or worked remotely the same.

You modified the source files and you also distributed those modification without permission for both cases. Even if you did not modified those files its against the IMS (Al self made copyright) to distribute any IC2 files without permission, im not pulling this stuff out of my arse people:

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IMS-License (It's my stuff!)
Everything seen on this website/thread and directly related to the content of this post is copyright'd by the respective author of this mod (IC² Dev-Team, names mentioned above). Any sort of files associated with this content (= the Download) may only be used for it's actual purpouse (installing and playing IC²).You may modify any or all of the content, but are NOT allowed to public any of it.
As well, noone besides the author and persons elected by the author are allowed to provide any download links. Everyone else is NOT allowed to public any sort of download , though he/she may hand out links to this website/thread instead.
Exspecially it is EXPLICITELY NOT allowed for anyone besides the author to earn any money by using this content's existence. This includes adfly, site advertisment and donations.
Any of the limitations above can be nullified by an explicite permission of the author.

Addendum I:
Trivially, all sites associated with and/or hosted by Alblaka or any member of the IC²-Dev-Team are allowed to provide content and/or links to content freely.
This addendum mainly refers to any downloads hosted via the IC² wiki.

Addendum II:
Any individuum is allowed to showcase this mod in form of screenshots and/or videos on any platform/website/forum under following restriction:
-A link to this thread must be provided, clearly visible under/next-to the media element(s).

Addendum III:
Any sort of modifications to the original IC² code may be created and published within the Addons-Section of this forum. The addon download must not contain any IC² files except the ones modified and of course the new files themselves.

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This is always at the bottom of any of the releases first post. Took the liberty of marking what you are doing wrong.

Theres also the Addendum III which may or may not help your case, but i don't know if a "Non Official Bug Fix" can be considered an addon or not (Al or someone else from the Dev team may need to clarify that). Also if thats the case you made a stupid mistake in posting it here.

Too busy playing other stuff, so i have the luxury of waiting for a real patch.

And closed source is, you ask permission or publish nothing. Although in your case seems more like publish first apologize later.

I don't see any error either. Maybe this one

"2012-10-02 05:42:36 [INFO] [STDOUT] [IC2] Submodule not loaded: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ic2/cgIntegration/common/AdvRecipeGenerator"

but i don't understand the forge logs yet. (I always remembered that the logs in modloader? the issue was always the first line...)

And maybe instead of just throwing an error log out of nowhere you could try to explain whats exactly the problem you are having?

Quote from baturinsky

Can we move this to General or something?

Why? Theres really nothing to discuss, in the end the amount of realism its at the hands of the developers. But if you people really want to smash your faces with a rock wall, hey i won't judge.

Quote from Kane Hart

May Rawcode please save this community!

Thanks

Considering its becoming full of inconsiderate people (Or maybe its just kane who is basically everywhere spouting the same stuff whenever he goes) demanding more and more from a group of people doing its best on a non-profit project... I would leave them hanging... But meh thats just me.

And i don't think its bad reminding RawCode that this is still a closed source project. @Below: Nope.

Quote from RockRaiderZulu

...so a Bluetricity to EU converter can be made...

I invite you to stop for a second and forget about that idea. Something like that have been made in the past and didn't end at all well. Even talking to eloraam will not help since she's just going to say no either way. (Albeit ignoring all this you can still make it, but distribution, ergo leaving your hard drive, its a big nono)

Edit: Never insisted in any of the sort. And stop using the word "Realistic" in your "Suggestions" if you don't want the discussion to go in that way.

Edit2: @Below: You are welcomed.

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THIS
IS
MINECRAFT!
*Kicks Physics over ledge*

Thats all you really need to know about if "Realism" really matters or not in minecraft.

And come fucking on, we just got out of one Nuclear reactor revamp and you morons are pushing another one just to feel more "Realistic"?

Deal with it people, minecraft its composed of many magical blocks that do most of the "Realistic" actions behind the scenes. So just get into your tiny little heads that somewhere inside that "Nuclear Reactor block" there is a water tank and a turbine, the water will be heated by the uranium cells where it will produce steam where it will move the turbines to create EU, So technically speaking the uraniums cells do create EU its just that the devs never really bothered explaining in detail how the nuclear reactor works "Inside".

Also, ITS A STUPID GAME PEOPLE!, realism its often sacrificed to make room for more entertaining mechanics.

Edit: And did this really needed a new thread? I don't think so.

Lets no bring xzibit in here dawg

Soooo... Not happy with reposting the same bugs over and over again now you repost lists of bugs? I think you guys did a level up behind my back or something...

(And that just goes to show that people really doesn't bother reading or searching before posting anything... No wonder al doesn't want to clutter this more than what it is by making public betas)

Buckets... Lol i forgot about those suckers, there should be a way to use buckets for some stuff instead of cells (That way the ironhoards would be born lul)

@Magus: Buckets stacks? Im guessing when they are empty because i remember they did not when they were filled with something.

I Said a big "IF", 4 tin for 1 cell since acceptable since after all you can reuse it a lot. (After all i still need a good laugh with tinpinchers claiming the recipe is too much, if it were my decision it would be 9 tin for 1 lul)

Closed source to me means "You can't have access to the ORIGINAL source we have, period", yes you can decompile IC2 and Minecraft but how many errors that gives you (And in the case of ic2 how many things you lose), you say it only takes you 5-15min to decompile but thats because of MCP and the really helpful tools they provide. Ever tried to decompile minecraft or ic2 without MCP?

Not every "Closed Source" code in this world have their own useful "MCP".

Im just gonna say, if Cells ever become "Re-Usable" they certainly can't cost the same, i mean 4 tin for 12-16 cells that can be used over and over again? Nope

Greg! Wut r u doing?! GREG! STAHP!!!

Come on man, seeing the tinpinchers being their usual "cell" (Bad pun) when tin "wasting" is mentioned its amusing and you wanna rid me of that enjoyment? /Joking, i really don't care what the F happens to tinpinchers lul.