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Quote from HansenLaMoose

I am sorry if heaps of people ask for help and/or post things in the wrong area but I believe this falls unto support. I just need basic tutorials, all of the ones I have followed haven't worked for me, because it's so complex. And by that,I mean the mod itself, I've got it work, just have no idea how to make the super cool stuff.
Thanks, Hansen

Make what super cool stuff? There's about a hundred items in IC², we have no idea what your "super cool" is. Please give more specifics, like nuclear reactors, sticks, QuantumSuit, etc.

You can download minecraft.jar (and minecraft_server.exe and jar) from minecraft.net, for all versions after MC 1.0.0

Alternatively get MCNostalgia.

Quote from sondrex76

do you know if it is a ic2 for 1.5.1 thats public? if it is one can you link it i cant find it anywhere.

http://ic2api.player.to:8080/job/IC2_lf/258/

Somewhat public as Player has posted a link for their Jenkins before.

And RichardG has acknowledged Jenkins viewers.

Quote from Zudguard

what purple piping are you using? It looks like obsidian piping to me, or the old insertion piping from advanced pipes that I haven't seen around for a while.

This does look real good. I have been struggling with gregtech a bit. How the heck am I going to get a matterfab? so expensive and the iridium is really really rare. Scrap boxes look great, especially with some gregtech items that have a chance to be produced from them.

Definitely not obsidipipes, those don't connect together.

As for matterfab, if you have Thermal Expansion installed, throw Ferrous Ore + Mercury Cells into Industrial Grinder to produce platinum dust. Then use the platinum and centrifuge them into iridium nuggets, which make iridium ingots. Or go to the End and mine some Sheldonite.

Quote from Binaryjutsu

Only suggesting you could copypasta the 5 machines that are there (with a different max input value) and add a crafting recipe for them.

The crafting recipe could be as simple as combining it with an appropriate transformer (which would make it more expensive than the upgrade card, but worth the materials)


The other upgrades really don't have much effect on a machine if they are removed when the machine is, so they are fine to remain how they are.
I don't mean to demand you guys write a bunch of extra code to keep the nbt data of machines as items. (unless you were planning to do that anyway, which would be totally awesome!)

I am not saying this could easily be done in a mod, but most mod-makers have a habit of over-embellishing and starting to do weird unnecessary things to set themselves apart from the base IC2 (see GregTech )

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I'm just poking fun. GT is still fun in its own special way.

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That would potentially waste 5 meta-ID spaces, I think now IC2 has maxed out 2 or 3 ID spaces for machines, adding another 5 machines would take up another 1 ID.

As for balance, it would not matter much, as with vanilla IC2 there's no balance with upgrades anyway - you can throw up to 64 upgrades of each type (which is plenty) in a machine and still have a slot left over.

However, I think using NBT to "pre-upgrade" the machines is better, as it saves (meta)-IDs.

If I'm not wrong, upgrades are stored in NBT tags (slots 4, 5, 6 and 7 respectively).
So maybe just add one machine is necessary? Like the upgrader? (Put transformer upgrade and a macerator, it gets added to the NBT of the macerator)

Oh and the code that prevents NBT data loss has to be added, I know for one if you use NBTedit on a recycler in a chest to place transformer upgrades, it will be removed.

PS If you mean to suggest something for IC2, then this is probably not the place. There's a suggestion forum.
So you want more greengens for early gameplay that do not require massive amounts of mining (either manual or automatic), do not prevent sunlight from reaching the ground and do not require massive infrastructure.

Without GregTech, there's quite a variety.

• Manned watermills. You can even make them work underground. Yes, they've been nerfed, but so what? One watermill is much cheaper than a Solar Panel, and produces 1 EU/t. If you have glass to burn, 2 EU/t. Works day and night, underground. Infrastrucutre? The original RedPower prototype uses only 1 Deployer (1 iron, 2 redstone), 2 Filters (one for the retriever; 4 gold, 2 iron, 8 redstone, requires 2 diamonds and an alloy furnace), 1 Retriever (2 brass, 1 leather, 2 ender pearls, 2 iron, 1 silver, 4 nikolite), 1 Thermopile (4 copper, 2 tin, 12 nikolite and 1 silver), a timer (8 redstone?), 2 vanilla redstone pixie wiring (2 redstone dust) and 8 tubes at the maximum. (2 brass). You don't even need a battery box, but you can add that later.
  

  
  

  For the basic supporting infrastrucutre, that's 5 iron, 20 redstone, 2 gold, 4 brass (3 copper + 1 tin), 1 leather, 2 ender pearls, 1 silver, 16 nikolite, 4 copper, 2 tin and a few easily gotten resources, with a final requirement of 2 diamonds and 8 clay blocks. The majority can be gotten on a moderately successful mining trip. Leather - you probably kill cows before you even go mining. Ender pearls - probably the only hard part, but get an athame (1 silver) and wander about at night. Clay could be gotten during the same time.

  
  

  As for the watermill themselves, that's 4 iron, 2 tin and 1/4 copper. Plus some sticky resin, but if you can't find resin, you probably won't do IC2 in the first place. Additionally, tin cabling is also cheap.

• Solar panels. After all, early game, the maximum you'll probably need is 6. That's relatively cheap.
• Wind generators. A bit more complex to set up, (after all eacch wind gen costs 12 iron and 4 tin) but I'm sure SpwnX could find a way around it.
• Generators. Yes, that's it. Chop forests down and burn them! With Forestry, you can get a very powerful fuel source also known as peat, to burn. With Railcraft, you can spend some time to wait on coal to burn into coal coke, and the creosote oil can be used later.

That's a rather wide variety.

As when you have GregTech, that's a different story. You're not supposed to be able to get a sustainable energy system during that first week. Nope. If vanilla IC2 adds a new one, Greg would probably nerf it to oblivion. If you find that irritating, GregTech is probably not the mod for you (without extreme configuration).

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Sorry for reviving old, long dead threads, but the posts in here made me create this account in the first place.
I would like to ask everyone to apply some basic logic to a few matters:

1: Compact solars
This mod is awesome and a lot more realistic than basic IC solar panels. The fact that EUs generated by a single normal panel are not even enough to GET PAST THE FIRST FEW METER OF CABLE is absolutely nerfing solar panes in favor of much more "exciting" methods of EU generation (like a nuclear powerplant) .
Furthermore, crafting a single High Voltage solar panel requires 512 regular solar panels. That is 1024 circuits, which 6144 copper cable, not counting the transformers. That is over 3 INVENTORIES full of copper cable.
Anyone who thinks that a fairly decent power generator requiring that many resources is "too OP" is either a masochist or a fool.

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No. The essential balancing factor for standard Solars are not of material, but of space. Standard Solars require 1 block space per EU/t on default settings, and 1 tin cable. That is all well and good, until you spam solars, where the 40 block limit comes in.

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2: Geothermal generators
Geothermal generators are the most unrealistic thing about IC. A generator CONSUMING lava is insane enough. If you combine this with lava not regenerating at all, you are as far away from what a real geothermal generator is, as with a combustion engine. Finding about about this concept had me stop playing minecraft for a while.

Lava in the nether is ALSO not an excuse for this, since you would end up having to move huge distances in an essentially hostile environment, because lava is, again, NOT RENEWABLE.

@First part: I wonder why you don't ragequit from floating trees and dirt blocks.
Lava in the nether? Not infinite? It's practically infinite. The overworld is 6.4 million blocks wide. Since the Nether is 1/8th of that, that would be 800 000 blocks wide. Eight hundered thousand blocks wide would be 640 billion blocks in width. Assuming 35% of the Nether is covered in lava, that would be 224 billion blocks. Say that the Nether lava seas are on average, 25 blocks deep. That would be 5.6 trillion lava blocks. Which can produce 1.12 x 10^17 (112 quadrillion) EU.

Additionally, with multi-mod implements nowadays, a nether pump is extremely simple to relocate. The pump itself, 4 redstone engines (or an Energy Tesseract), a Liquid Tesseract (or an Ender Tank) and a chunk loader of your choice.

Oh, and server lag due to Nether pumping? Not anymore. GregTech's Advanced Pump, the Mining Pipes, an AESU, a Lapotronic Energy Orb, the Liquid Tesseract or Ender Tank and a chunk loader.

Alternatively, quarry the nether (or use IC2 miner) for netherrack and dump it in a Magma Crucible.

EDIT: Hostile environment? My extra hazmat suit says no.

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3: (Not really) Renewable energy sources
Having only EU generation options that require a massive amount of non-renewable resources is bad enough, having non renewable and rare resources as parts that wear off, is madness. >steam turbine
I would like to remind everyone that being able to destroy metal without it regenerating or going back into the environment is unrealistic enough, even without basing generators on this concept.
Iron being the non renewable and damn rare thing it is in minecraft, and with IC relying on 'realistic' amounts of iron for its infrastructure creates an imbalance i would expect mods to fix and not further worsen.

For Iron: Zombie/Iron Golem farm. Or UU-Matter, I think it's a 5:4 ratio.
For Coal: Wither Skeleton farm. Or UU-Matter, I think it's a 1:7 ratio.
Alternatively, you can repair routers by adding 8 turbine blades to a damaged router. So it's 24 steel per repair.

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4: Really renewable energy sources
These would be some that don't require ANYTHING that you can't regrow or regenerate over time.
This would still not be too OP, since it would counteract the fact that using resources in minecraft inevitably leads to them effectively disappearing from the part of the world you can get to in reasonable times.
Any arguments with the notion that minecraft is about exploring the world are mute, since you're supposed to explore the world to find new resources to build and craft with and not to strip mine everything down to bedrock with space age mining lasers.
But since that is effectively what BC & IC are about, you would expect these mods to provide ways that would enable you to preserve SOME of the landscape.
With you having to strip-mine everything or having to install a Dyson-sphere out of solar arrays for you to be able to industrialize your stuff a bit, a lot of the beauty of building stuff into a landscape vanishes from minecraft.
This is precisely why i would love some decent renewable EU sources.

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Ask MatLaPatate for more information on why more non-renewable EU sources, not renewable ones. He's been suggesting more non-renewable EU sources for quite... a long time?

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5. Balancing
Should therefore NEITHER be done by changing the recipes of the EU generation methods so that it is essentially impossible to afford and thus cutting off any entry point into industrialization, NOR by having to disfigure the landscape so much that you have to build your house a thousand blocks away to not fall down to bedrock, get roasted by radiation, or live in the constant shadow of your solar Dyson-sphere... or cube... or whatever.
Renewable energy sources should be difficult to get, because of
-the huge time investments or huge infrastructure required (>charcoal based)
-their small energy output and difficulty to build, (>geothermal)
-the incredible resource requirements if you want to have it compact (>solar)
and not because of anything else.
It should be because of these reasons that the players would be forced to first base their infrastructure on non renewable EU sources, before finally transitioning to renewable ones with industrial progress.

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With multi-mod implements (I'm talking FtB) nowadays,

• Charcoal-based energy fuel sources are extremely cheap to come by, with Steve's Carts and Forestry. Short on Apatite? Find another vein, and you're set again.
• Automatic blaze rod farms are near-possible in vanilla, and are enhanced by mods. Blaze-rod burning is not a thing of the future anymore.
• Geothermals, on the contrary, are the first/second/third choice to power. (First may be Compact Solars/Advanced Solars or fusion reactor, depending on context).
• Solars, see above.

I don't think there's any shortage of renewable energy sources when using many mods, except during that first week of using GregTech.

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6: Conclusion
If anything, IC and any other related or compatible mods are unrealistic because of the amount of difficulty they add, and not because of them making MC too easy.
Industry could flower in the real world because we had an advanced society with hundreds of thousands of people and a history of a dozen millenniums, so that we could gather resources and build infrastructure. Since we don't have either of these on the average minecraft server, and the IC team still wants the player to be able to get from punching trees to building nuclear reactors, you do have to add a few things to make industrial advances easier.
The next time you want to complain about something being too OP, generate a new world and try to alter the landscape as little as possible and check whether it is REALLY all that easy to get stuff done.


All in all, if anything, methods of EU generation coming from other mods and included in IC itself are too difficult, but in general still provide a fairly enjoyable game experience

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Quote from masterzh

Hi all IC2 fans!
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I apologize if it was already discussed in another thread.(which i didnt find)
This topic is not to be taken as disgraceful/disregard of new nuclear rework. I am looking for other players opinions about reactor cooling process not about functionality, efficiency, cost, new more options for designs but possibilities to make cooling process cool.
So generally less important thing to talk but meh i want to know and i care.
Please excuse my bad English if possible.
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Hopefully most of you will understand my point of view and give me some new thoughts instead of yelling and calling me crazy(which can be true).
Generally there are 3 things which bother me in new "nuclear revolution"

1. [External cooling]
2. [Internal water cooling]
3. [Internal ice cooling]

First of all i am not any kind of "nuclear reactor nerd", i didnt invent hundreds of amazing nuclear designs and didnt even test most of them. So i am most likely just big "Nuclear stuff fan" which love to play around safety RP reactor devices/R overflow/nuclear control/R security etc. I started working on my huge project which was just ordinary nuclear powerplant(400x600) and recently end up as whole jungle island with underground evil base complex@HIVE AND nuclear powerplant. I like to organize machines/factories/control rooms/farms in less mainstream style(not like many players copy everything DW20 do)- fancy and many times even useless but more cooler... 1 of my most original (at least for me) ideas for final reactor was adding RP pumps to physically flow water around reactors from tanks, cooling and circulate in different related systems. Even when i heard about disabling this feature i had no worries to keep and use this system. But taking away water/ice cooling really harmed my plans to make lot of cool complicated systems as support for reactor. I am not talking about timer>BB>snowman device in corner of the room but huge halls full of pipes, ccsenzors, touchscreen displays and machine walls covered with RP signal lamps and microblocks like Mauricio Matosdid HERE . I know you can make the similar build "reactor components factory" but its not the same for me. Constantly feeding and controlling reactor cooling systems is for me more fancy (again i am not comparing new version possibilities or practicality) and i cant see any way to make similar system with new version.

Call me "old-fashioned" but i didn't sad those "cooling changes" are bad. I keep open mind to listen "both sides" and dont judge until i played enough with both. Maybe is every1 happy and its just me? Share your opinion if you have some experiences and understand my point of view on these changes i will be grateful.

MasterZH

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The internal cooling via ice and water system was removed due to it being extremely exploitable.
There are 3 ways to get around it and still have the fancy water cycling and recycling thing:

• Use Condensators. They are heat sinks that need to be "refilled" once in a while. RSH-Condensators can take up to 20k heat and once they reach there, they simply stay in an "inactive" state, so they cannot be destroyed. Add redstone dust to reduce stored heat by 10k. LZH-Condensators can take up to 100k heat and have the same "inactive" state. Add redstone dust to reduce by 5k and lapis lazuli to reduce by 40k.
• Use DDoS (Decentralized Distribution of Steam) systems. Transport damaged Coolant Cells from a energy-generating reactor to a reactor to cool down these coolant cells (also known as "Cooldown Towers").
• Use HVC (Heat Vent Cycle) systems. A spinoff of DDoS but using Overclocked Heat Vents.

Finally, there is a "steam mode" you can turn on in the reactor configuration file. Reactors will output Railcraft steam instead of energy and those have to be fed into a Railcraft Steam Boiler to produce energy. However, to transport the steam I recommend getting Thermal Expansion for the Liquiducts to transport steam. (They are Buildcraft Golden Pipes which have improved capacity especially for liquids that IRL flow faster, such as steam. They are also much less laggy. Plus you can run liquiducts side-by-side. Join them with a Buildcraft Wrench-right-click (that includes any BC wrench, such as RC Crowbar, TE Crescent Hammer)).

Quote from tipred3

Anyone know how to make osmium plates...? I'm using the exact recipe it says in the picture, but it's not working. (Unless those things that look like adv alloys really arent adv alloys)

Did you install GregTech? If so, try the Plate Bending machine.

Quote from SpwnX

If possible also making it read MJ in redstone conduicts (there is a tool, just don't remember what it is called) and making it read charge (factorization Charge Meter).

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If possible also making it read MJ in redstone conduicts (there is a tool, just don't remember what it is called) and making it read charge (factorization Charge Meter).

That's the Multimeter. Allow it to work on the Liquiducts too!

Additionally, while we're at it, Redpower 2 multimeters!

Quote from ihunter32

• New electrodes to gather the electrons when they are excited by the solar radiation. More electrodes could decrease the voltage output but increase the number of packets as the energy is spread out more (UHSP outputs 1 packet of 512 eu/t with 1 electrode, but with 4, it'll output 4 packets of 128 eu/t), though this could be done with transformers, but i guess it'd cut down on space.

That and servers WILL NOT go well together.

More in-depth explanation, please, like what is its range, how many times does it check to light up, EU usage, tier no., etc.

Quote from F4113nb34st

obviously, you just don't get it,
the sole reason that he added capes in in the first place is so that other people can see the capes

if their was a separate mod to add a cape to someone else, only the people with the would bother installing it,
so it would be useless, as I said

so instead, he added it into the file that already has to be downloaded, so it would be visible for everyone

What he meant was that since almost nobody would want to install the mod, it would be useless. And why bother include a useless feature?

Quote from Fyre

High Orbit Nuke Cannons :evil:

Anyways, the cape thing I'm okay with, but I agree, there needs to be a configuration for the people with crappy internet.

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I really don't have a clue what I'm doing here as I've never built a nuclear reactor of any type before, but I've been reading through this thread and playing with the IC2 Reactor Planner and toying with some of the designs you guys have come up with. I really don't understand how to swap components into and out of a reactor while it is running (I would love to see a video) but here is a design I stumbled across that might interest you.
http://www.talonfiremage.pwp.b…uftn6xmjdk0jufhu7gco9smww

Of note with this design, bumping up the starting heat can increase the number of Depleted Cells charged should that be desirable.

The thread here is centered around vanilla IC2 reactors only. The thorium cells come from a infamous or awesome addon named GregTech.

Quote from Werseter

So I just should be able to copy the files of download file called bukkit port and use it for vanilla server? Coz I get a bit confused at words "the single file is an universal version"

The universal file is for BOTH client and server, since Minecraft 1.3.

Brace yourselves...
The "Y U NO UPDATE"s are coming.

Quote from Sinnaj63

Hello everyone!

forum.industrial-craft.net/index.php?page=User&userID=13388

Hello everyone, this is spambot20 and welcome to Kitchen 5 of The Spambot Show.

Quote from Two

4 Rules of Redpower machines:
1. Do not use Redstone-Dust ever. (You are using it)
2. Do not use Red-Pipes unless there is no alternative. (You are using them)
3. Do not use uninsulated cable unless you absolutely have to. (Don't think you use cables at all)
4. Never set a timer below 1 second and try to avoid hooking too many machines to one timer. (Can't tell the timer setting from the images, but you have your entire setup hooked to a single timer, which will cause micro-lags every time it ticks)

Since you are violating the top two rules, your machine will very likely cause lag. In addition your choice of components is rather bad:
- If there is no good reason to, never use an ejector, use the relay instead. Relays will automatically forward items without having to supply a redstone signal first, which reduces lag.
- Your placement of the restriction tubes doesn't seem to make any sense. They are supposed to be an alternative path if no other is available, yet there is one in the main path from the ender chests towards the processing machines and another one on the path to what I assume is the path to your storage room. As the line to the storage room is already much longer than the line to your void pipes, items would go to the void pipes first anyway.
- There is no need for void pipes at all (as well as the hopper), just place a filter with its output facing a lava source block and you have your "void pipe".
- You should place a relay between the input filter of each machine and the machine to buffer huge amounts of input.

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I recommend NOT using RedPower at all until all its bugs have been fixed. Crashed trying to open a timer. Additionally, relays cause unnecessary lag at the moment.