Posts by Chocohead

Chocohead

Quote from immibis

Okay then, I'll try fixing it a different way. (JAR attached to this post)

That seems to have fixed it. Adding Immibis Core still gets Minecraft stuck in a load order loop though.

Nuclear Control 2 doesn't seem to work with the compat either:

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---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// Oh - I know what I did wrong!




Time: 18/01/15 12:23
Description: There was a severe problem during mod loading that has caused the game to fail




cpw.mods.fml.common.LoaderException: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: ic2classic.core.util.StackUtil.copyWithWildCard(Lnet/minecraft/item/ItemStack;)Lnet/minecraft/item/ItemStack;
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.transition(LoadController.java:162)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.initializeMods(Loader.java:695)
at cpw.mods.fml.client.FMLClientHandler.finishMinecraftLoading(FMLClientHandler.java:288)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71384_a(Minecraft.java:541)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:867)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)
Caused by: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: ic2classic.core.util.StackUtil.copyWithWildCard(Lnet/minecraft/item/ItemStack;)Lnet/minecraft/item/ItemStack;
at shedar.mods.ic2.nuclearcontrol.recipes.RecipesNew.addRecipes(RecipesNew.java:101)
at shedar.mods.ic2.nuclearcontrol.IC2NuclearControl.postInit(IC2NuclearControl.java:186)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLModContainer.handleModStateEvent(FMLModContainer.java:513)
at sun.reflect.GeneratedMethodAccessor3.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventSubscriber.handleEvent(EventSubscriber.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventSubscriber.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventSubscriber.java:47)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:322)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:304)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:275)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.sendEventToModContainer(LoadController.java:208)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.propogateStateMessage(LoadController.java:187)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventSubscriber.handleEvent(EventSubscriber.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventSubscriber.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventSubscriber.java:47)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:322)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:304)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:275)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.distributeStateMessage(LoadController.java:118)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.initializeMods(Loader.java:694)
... 10 more

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Correction, it can work if the recipes are set to old in the config, but then many items/blocks are missing recipes. Not sure if that's just a Nuclear Control bug though. Reactor Sensor Kits and Thermometers don't work on reactors either, they just open it's GUI when you click on them. And apparently putting a normal Thermal Monitor on a reactor crashes you too:

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---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// I blame Dinnerbone.




Time: 18/01/15 12:31
Description: Ticking block entity




java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: network
	at shedar.mods.ic2.nuclearcontrol.tileentities.TileEntityThermo.setOnFire(TileEntityThermo.java:153)
	at shedar.mods.ic2.nuclearcontrol.tileentities.TileEntityThermo.checkStatus(TileEntityThermo.java:228)
	at shedar.mods.ic2.nuclearcontrol.tileentities.TileEntityThermo.func_145845_h(TileEntityThermo.java:242)
	at net.minecraft.world.World.func_72939_s(World.java:1939)
	at net.minecraft.world.WorldServer.func_72939_s(WorldServer.java:489)
	at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71190_q(MinecraftServer.java:636)
	at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.func_71217_p(MinecraftServer.java:547)
	at net.minecraft.server.integrated.IntegratedServer.func_71217_p(IntegratedServer.java:111)
	at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:427)
	at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer$2.run(MinecraftServer.java:685)

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Chocohead · Bored? Random IC2/Forum chat Chocohead January 17, 2015 at 11:24 PM

Wooo 4000th post, anyone for a UU Party?
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Chocohead

Still getting a crash from the compat:

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---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// You should try our sister game, Minceraft!

Time: 17/01/15 23:22
Description: There was a severe problem during mod loading that has caused the game to fail

cpw.mods.fml.common.LoaderException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ic2classic/core/recipes/MachineRecipeManager
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.transition(LoadController.java:162)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.preinitializeMods(Loader.java:515)
at cpw.mods.fml.client.FMLClientHandler.beginMinecraftLoading(FMLClientHandler.java:239)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71384_a(Minecraft.java:480)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:867)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ic2classic/core/recipes/MachineRecipeManager
at ic2classic.core.IC2.load(IC2.java:313)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLModContainer.handleModStateEvent(FMLModContainer.java:513)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventSubscriber.handleEvent(EventSubscriber.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventSubscriber.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventSubscriber.java:47)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:322)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:304)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:275)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.sendEventToModContainer(LoadController.java:208)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.propogateStateMessage(LoadController.java:187)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventSubscriber.handleEvent(EventSubscriber.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventSubscriber.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventSubscriber.java:47)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:322)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:304)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:275)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.distributeStateMessage(LoadController.java:118)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.preinitializeMods(Loader.java:513)
... 10 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: ic2classic.core.recipes.MachineRecipeManager
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:191)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
... 38 more
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ic2classic/api_compat/DirectItemAccessClassAdapter$1
at ic2classic.api_compat.Transformer.transform(Transformer.java:52)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.runTransformers(LaunchClassLoader.java:279)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:176)
... 40 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: ic2classic.api_compat.DirectItemAccessClassAdapter$1
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:191)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
... 43 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassCircularityError: ic2classic/api_compat/DirectItemAccessClassAdapter$1
at ic2classic.api_compat.Transformer.transform(Transformer.java:52)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.runTransformers(LaunchClassLoader.java:279)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:176)
... 45 more

Chocohead

Quote from trollguy751

ExtraCells-1.7.10-2.2.35b61

Here

Quote from trollguy751

sampler-1.16

And here

Chocohead

Having to add a core mod really isn't that bad. Everyone seems to be doing it now (there's a massive boom over the last few weeks and months), but Immibis has had his for years.

Chocohead · The new 5x5 IC² Reactor Chocohead January 17, 2015 at 8:45 PM

The flickering heat generation can be fixed by making sure for the steam generators that are making super heated steam are set to 220 bar, and have enough heat exchangers connected (2 or 4 depending on the output) and the rest of the heat goes into normal steam, but increasing the pressure still makes it want more heat, meaning you can take the excess out by having a heat exchanger that isn't quite receiving enough hot coolant. I think that'll work, but reactor designs with multiple of 20 hU are the best solution really.

Buildcraft pipes can work fine, it's all down to the piping. EnderIO Ender fluid conduits work well simple because the fluid transfer is instant. It's all down to setup and what mods you have.

Kinetic Steam Generators occasionally output distilled water instead of steam on world load, mainly down to very hard to produce bugs. The best thing to do is what you described of just having a way to get the distilled water out of the system. Having a condenser touching it assures you don't lose any water to steam explosions too.

5x5 Reactors are patchy, and it's often down to setups to determine how well they work. Keep trying though, they're really rewarding once stable.

Chocohead

Yeah ARS and Advanced Machines need it. I never really minded that, since I always have Tubestuff, which needs Immibis Core anyway

Chocohead

Immibis Core does not play well. You end up with an FML loading order loop. That's what you get for pretending to be IC2 while Immibis Core tries to load after it

I fixed the Nightvision Goggles missing a texture too, just in case anyone wants it.

Chocohead

Quote from Speiger

And that Immibis made IC2 Rely on his own core mod is a bad thing! IC2 is a standalone mod!

It doesn't rely on Immibis Core. Maybe the Experimental compat does (might have been why it wasn't working for me), but the base IC2 classic doesn't need it

Quote from Speiger

I think Immibis did not take care of it.

It works, so he might have accidentally fixed it.

Chocohead

Quote from Speiger

And if you did not implement IMetaDelegate to the EnergySystem then the NuclearReactor should maybe have the bug that you can increase the poweroutput with putting more cables on it.

I don't know what he's done, but reactors don't output extra energy from connecting more cables.

Actually, it seems he just only makes power output from one cable, that's what the EU reader suggests.

Chocohead

Nuclear Control doesn't work:

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---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// Oh - I know what I did wrong!

Time: 17/01/15 17:24
Description: There was a severe problem during mod loading that has caused the game to fail

cpw.mods.fml.common.LoaderException: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: shedar.mods.ic2.nuclearcontrol.IC2NuclearControl
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.transition(LoadController.java:162)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.loadMods(Loader.java:502)
at cpw.mods.fml.client.FMLClientHandler.beginMinecraftLoading(FMLClientHandler.java:204)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71384_a(Minecraft.java:480)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:867)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: shedar.mods.ic2.nuclearcontrol.IC2NuclearControl
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:191)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.ModClassLoader.loadClass(ModClassLoader.java:58)
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLModContainer.constructMod(FMLModContainer.java:420)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventSubscriber.handleEvent(EventSubscriber.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventSubscriber.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventSubscriber.java:47)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:322)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:304)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:275)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.sendEventToModContainer(LoadController.java:208)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.propogateStateMessage(LoadController.java:187)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventSubscriber.handleEvent(EventSubscriber.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventSubscriber.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventSubscriber.java:47)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:322)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:304)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:275)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.distributeStateMessage(LoadController.java:118)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.loadMods(Loader.java:492)
... 10 more
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ic2classic/api_compat/DirectItemAccessClassAdapter$1
at ic2classic.api_compat.Transformer.transform(Transformer.java:52)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.runTransformers(LaunchClassLoader.java:279)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:176)
... 38 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: ic2classic.api_compat.DirectItemAccessClassAdapter$1
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:191)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
... 41 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassCircularityError: ic2classic/api_compat/DirectItemAccessClassAdapter$1
at ic2classic.api_compat.Transformer.transform(Transformer.java:52)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.runTransformers(LaunchClassLoader.java:279)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:176)
... 43 more

*Correction, the whole compat seems broken:

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---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
// Shall we play a game?

Time: 17/01/15 17:27
Description: There was a severe problem during mod loading that has caused the game to fail

cpw.mods.fml.common.LoaderException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ic2classic/core/recipes/MachineRecipeManager
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.transition(LoadController.java:162)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.preinitializeMods(Loader.java:515)
at cpw.mods.fml.client.FMLClientHandler.beginMinecraftLoading(FMLClientHandler.java:239)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_71384_a(Minecraft.java:480)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.func_99999_d(Minecraft.java:867)
at net.minecraft.client.main.Main.main(SourceFile:148)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.launch(Launch.java:135)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.Launch.main(Launch.java:28)
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ic2classic/core/recipes/MachineRecipeManager
at ic2classic.core.IC2.load(IC2.java:313)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.FMLModContainer.handleModStateEvent(FMLModContainer.java:513)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventSubscriber.handleEvent(EventSubscriber.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventSubscriber.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventSubscriber.java:47)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:322)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:304)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:275)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.sendEventToModContainer(LoadController.java:208)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.propogateStateMessage(LoadController.java:187)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventSubscriber.handleEvent(EventSubscriber.java:74)
at com.google.common.eventbus.SynchronizedEventSubscriber.handleEvent(SynchronizedEventSubscriber.java:47)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatch(EventBus.java:322)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.dispatchQueuedEvents(EventBus.java:304)
at com.google.common.eventbus.EventBus.post(EventBus.java:275)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.LoadController.distributeStateMessage(LoadController.java:118)
at cpw.mods.fml.common.Loader.preinitializeMods(Loader.java:513)
... 10 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: ic2classic.core.recipes.MachineRecipeManager
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:191)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
... 38 more
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ic2classic/api_compat/DirectItemAccessClassAdapter$1
at ic2classic.api_compat.Transformer.transform(Transformer.java:52)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.runTransformers(LaunchClassLoader.java:279)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:176)
... 40 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: ic2classic.api_compat.DirectItemAccessClassAdapter$1
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:191)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
... 43 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassCircularityError: ic2classic/api_compat/DirectItemAccessClassAdapter$1
at ic2classic.api_compat.Transformer.transform(Transformer.java:52)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.runTransformers(LaunchClassLoader.java:279)
at net.minecraft.launchwrapper.LaunchClassLoader.findClass(LaunchClassLoader.java:176)
... 45 more

Chocohead · [IC2 Exp][1.7.10] Nuclear Control 2 Chocohead January 16, 2015 at 9:38 PM

Woo, holding true to the cause. Mainly to annoy big reactor users who don't want to use IC2

Chocohead · [IC2 Exp][1.7.10] Nuclear Control 2 Chocohead January 16, 2015 at 9:29 PM

Now that Nuclear Control works with big reactors, does that mean it still needs IC2?

Chocohead · [IC2 Exp][1.7.10][WIP] EnetBridge 1.7 Chocohead January 15, 2015 at 10:54 PM

If you look at IC2, and compare it to say TE, it'll be underpowered, as you're using more resources to make an ore processing system without extra byproducts (if you just make the macerator). If you compare IC2 to GT, it is overpowered, as you can use less resources to achieve ore doubling. Depending on what is being compared to what determines it's balance, everything is relative. Sometimes you've just got to accept you've not got the cheapest solution, or some people might prefer to still use TE and MFR over IC2 and Forestry. That doesn't mean that IC2 and Forestry should suddenly get massively cheaper or just stop all together, it just means people use it differently to each other, which isn't a bad thing. Why do you think there was only ever Technic for Beta 1.7.3 compared to all the different FTB and Technicpack packs we have now? It's hard to mess with something that's already in a mess, especially when what you'd be doing is making IC2 more accessable by making it cheaper, so if anything you'd be drawing in people to use it, rather than messing up the dodgy conversions. RF -> EU will never really be balanced, as won't RF in general, but inside EU as a power system it is. You should always remember that we're protected in our bubble of EU, and that that means we're already one step up on the RF gang before you even get going.

So you know, update to 1.7.10. And get xbony to update Modloader.

Chocohead · [ADDON] [1.7.2] CompactWindmills Chocohead January 15, 2015 at 9:11 PM

1.6.4 is dead, the same way 1.4.7 is, and 1.2.5. People still playing on them doesn't mean that they should keep mods from updating. Especially with all the new stuff in IC2 and the new total overhaul that is Gregtech. I expect other mods added new stuff too. It's not worth staying on 1.6.4 when there's 1.7.10 which you are free to play and balance with. There aren't any big mods that haven't updated either that'd explain why you'd hold back (Like EE2 and RP2 did).

Chocohead · IC2 Crops... and the IC2 wiki. Chocohead January 15, 2015 at 8:51 PM

You get poisonous potatoes from leaving them too long.

GregTech info is arguably easier to get simply because IC2 on it's own is a rare thing now (still lots of fun though).

Crop info wise, there's some here, but it's just basic information: http://ftb.gamepedia.com/Crop_Breeding_…trialCraft_2%29

Chocohead

Quote from Player

It fixes the Optifine issue in 1.14/1.15

Woo!

Quote from Player

is compatible with the ColoredLights mod at some loss of performance benefits if detected.

Is that the lighting engine changes that it does that can't run?

Chocohead · [IC2 Exp][1.7.10][WIP] EnetBridge 1.7 Chocohead January 14, 2015 at 9:21 PM

Quote from Speiger

The gamebalancing is totally messed up at all in 1.7.10.... I mean a enderquarry which is not that fast require more than 600 RF per tick ony to run at basic full speed ( without upgrades) and even a quarry powered with 200RF is still faster...

The ender quarry was designed with RF, and doesn't make massive world holes. The normal quarry makes big holes, is often disabled as the ender quarry uses less processing power and was designed for MJ.

Quote from Speiger

Guys sit together and make a clean gamebalance....

Never going to happen, there's just not 5 people that can make their minds up to decide balance, the entire community needs to, while there's a struggle on to get users to use their stuff, therefore balance goes out of the window.

Quote from Speiger

The old balances with 1.1 and 1.2.5 and 1.4.7 were totally good...

As there was EU, and MJ. That was it (ignoring Bluetricity). The only conversions were the Forestry engines and power converters. Now there's a huge number of different conversion methods, leaving even balanced mods vulnerable to another mod's power system unbalancing it. With most things using RF now, literally the conversion is free, leaving the different mods free to unbalance each other.

Quote from Speiger

I personally do not understand it. <.<

The longer you've been here, IMO the easier it is to see. If you look further to Beta 1.7.3 when Forge was just coming out, there was no cross mod interactions at all, and a whole less mods overall, meaning there was normally just 1 way to do things, and so the debalancing just couldn't take place that we have now.

Chocohead

Quote from Player

I'm preparing FC 1.16 which will fix Optifine compatibility.

Woo! Is there anything you can't do Player?

Chocohead

10/10 Would make spare armour stand and set just to enjoy the textures

Posts by Chocohead

[Port][1.7.10] IC2 Classic by Immibis - now 1.7.10

Bored? Random IC2/Forum chat

[Port][1.7.10] IC2 Classic by Immibis - now 1.7.10

[1.7.10] Gregtech Hardmode Server (aka Kirara 2.0)

[Port][1.7.10] IC2 Classic by Immibis - now 1.7.10

The new 5x5 IC² Reactor

[Port][1.7.10] IC2 Classic by Immibis - now 1.7.10

[Port][1.7.10] IC2 Classic by Immibis - now 1.7.10

[Port][1.7.10] IC2 Classic by Immibis - now 1.7.10

[Port][1.7.10] IC2 Classic by Immibis - now 1.7.10

[Port][1.7.10] IC2 Classic by Immibis - now 1.7.10

[IC2 Exp][1.7.10] Nuclear Control 2

[IC2 Exp][1.7.10] Nuclear Control 2

[IC2 Exp][1.7.10][WIP] EnetBridge 1.7

[ADDON] [1.7.2] CompactWindmills

IC2 Crops... and the IC2 wiki.

[WIP|1.7.10] FastCraft 1.25 (Note: All Posts of new Members need to be approved first, so if you press the submit button but no new post appears here, it is in the folder of posts to be approved first, and Player will receive them a few hours later)

[IC2 Exp][1.7.10][WIP] EnetBridge 1.7

[WIP|1.7.10] FastCraft 1.25 (Note: All Posts of new Members need to be approved first, so if you press the submit button but no new post appears here, it is in the folder of posts to be approved first, and Player will receive them a few hours later)

[16x][IC2, GT5u/6, AE2, more!] Zederrian Technology 1.4.0