Yeah, the lower tier wouldn't work without some serious thought on how to implement. But I think the rest of my post can stand quite well in the game currently. Interested to see what Alblaka thinks.
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The question is how should this escalate?
If you feed a 32EU Machine 128... yeah a lightning once did something similar to my TV... it definatly didn't explode but you should add a fire on top and the screen imploded somehow. But what if you feed the same machine (not my TV^^) 512 or to be really insane over 1000EU (directly from a CASUC)?
(Actually I build a SMP trap with the explotion, I placed a full recycler somewhere (64 dirt, 64 scrap) so it won't get new items from RP-Tubes. But it was connected via tubes behind a wall. If you took out some of the materials RP sends new items to it, which trigger a redstone current blowing the recycler via overload^^. Really Stupid (and expensive -.-) and it only works with a recycler because of the fast cycles)
So I guess explotions should still occur if you totally screw things. Sending your whole CASUC-Output directly into a Macerater (while screaming "Macerate this!" of course) should cause havoc... but some overload not.
Exactly, if you read the last portion of my post, it is very similar to what you just suggested. Basically if it is 2 tiers too high for a machine (hi-volt going to a low-volt machine) it would still explode.
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AFAIK, the current Plant system that Alblaka is working on is heavily chance weighted, but if it uses Mendelian genetics I have no clue. He has some sort of format though, so you may or may not get what you want in the game. You can cross-breed plants in an upcoming release tho.
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Basically what I was thinking, as you plunk down the hard earned mfe and hook it up to your machines, they all don't suddenly explode, but rather, hrm, burn
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I seem to remember a discussion way back when painters where introduced about having machines be painted, and remember Alblaka saying something about, but can't quite remember. I'll try to look for the post, but I've got a feeling I won't find it.
EDIT: I can't belive it, but after 15 minutes looking through the Archives I FOUND IT!!! Here it is: Link
Looks like he wanted to implement it, but the idea probably got lost in other things.
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Previous poll results:
"How do you want machines to react with voltage too high for them?"
Current System (Explodes upon reaching a tier too high (low volt [32 EU] receiving >32 volt) = 23%
Fry circuit at one tier higher, and explode upon two tier higher (low volt would fry at >32 but <128, and explode at >128 (can repair with a circuit.) = 74%
Fry at all tiers too high for the machine (Low volt receiving anything >32 eus.) = 4%
As we all know, when you give a machine too high of a voltage, it explodes with immense consequences, usually ruining everything around. Although machines vary, most blow up at medium voltage. Although I currently like this current system, and want it to some degree, you have to agree that it is not very realistic. What I am proposing is that if a machine receives a level of Eu a tier higher than it can accept (eg. low voltage machines like macerators receiving medium voltage) than rather than it explodes, it would fry the circuit inside it. Basically rendering it useless, the machine would no longer work, and the gui (if possible) would appear blackened and cracked. And what do I do with a machine that recently has been fried? Well, I just right click it with a circuit to place the circuit inside and repairing the machine. This would still provide a penalty for new users for crossing higher voltage over low voltage lings, but not destroying everything they worked hard on. Of course, if I ran high voltage ( >128 ) through a low-volt machine (32), it would still explode.I did also think about reworking the current tier system, having basic machines like macerators and extractors use ultra-low current up to 5 eus, than between 5-32 the circuit would fry, and anything >32 would have it explode, but that would require a new batbox or transformer, and I believe Alblaka already stated he would not implement ultra-low voltage transformers, so this particular part of my idea wouldn't happen. Let me know what you guys think, any constructive criticism is greatly appreciated. Take care ,
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I actually really like this idea. A lot. In fact, this is how I want the Matter Generator to work in the mod.
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Solar Flowers
Tier - 14 (Depends on certain abilities below)
Appearance - Either a blue or yellow headed sunflower.
Special Abilities - Everyone knows about the Solar Flower from IC1, and were used quite frequently. Well, this play on words is an ACTUAL solar flower, capable of breaking down the sun's power through IC photosynthesis and converting it into energy. But what makes this sunflower different from the rest is the ability to produce a small amount of EU's capable of being transferred with either with regular cables, or having a converter cable right beside the plant to allow the connection of regular cables to the converter cable. I'm not sure on the ability to code something of this manner, but I'm happy with either option. The tier level I wasn't sure what to put, but it would go up or down depending on how much power it produces. I was thinking something a bit smaller that a solar panel in terms of power production, but am not sure if that is possible.
Requirements : Obviously unobstructed light, or a light level of 15, whichever is applicable. As well, plants need CO2, but am at a loss on how to implement that, we will just assume that it gets it from the cows or something.
"Sunny" "Yellow (or blue if you want to stay true to the current solar panel sprite)"
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How can you give your view on the whole thread if you haven't read it? It's only four pages long and very slow moving. The permissions issue has already been cleared up extensively.
Correction, I guess that didn't come off correctly, some of the longest posts I more of skimmed than actually read, my apologies. I also don't get a lot of free time in between RL stuff, so I tend to not spend much time here. Sorry for the confusion. Carry on.
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I was going to say no, Hax blox, but then I realized we have the grass recipe. +1 for me!
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You are right, it has been suggested several times, and likely would be very hard to code and probably would be quite buggy.
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How are the wall building mods working for buildcraft compared to CF foam in IC2? It was a complete PITA to setup the scaffolding and fill it in properly with the CF sprayer (it always seemed to want to leave one or two blocks unfilled); I /mostly/ worked around it by starting near the old foam first; but it was a huge pain for floors and the anti-spider edge where it would often fail to fully fill to an edge or worse fill in the supports other blocks in the shape depended upon. A more fixed system of each pellet being equal to a given number CF blocks, the filler only being refillable at empty, and the sprayer depleting as many blocks as needed for the scaffolding would be ideal.
Wrong thread?
Or are you being waaay off topic.I haven't read all the points but here is my view on the whole thread.
Personally I believe the technic pack creators should give an apology for not getting permission, as it seems that they think it's all a big misunderstanding. Even if the mod creators are ok with it now, it doesn't mean it was alright to put it in a modpack to begin with. The argument of it growing quickly out of control does not stand as a defense, but rather an explanation. I feel they should be apologizing for their inability to not ask for permission and move on. -
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe air has a resistance of 0, and doesn't provide any protection. When any block is destroyed, it is immediately replaced with air, so when air is destroyed, it is replaced with an air block. This would make it so explosions wouldn't be able to travel through water unless you came up with a different way.
Edit: BTW your thread is at risk for deletion because it is in the wrong format. Should be "Suggestion: Water vs. Explosions" , or even better "Suggestion: Change to Water Regarding Explosions" or something to that effect.
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That would be cool, but wouldn't it have to be written in a different coding language (no idea, just assuming)? Probably not worth the team's time. but maybe someone lurking around here could pick it up.
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I made a new world recently, and found I actually was continually short on copper, because I always mine way down near layer 10-15.
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I HATE if i hit "edit" instead of "reply". Sorry headhunter.
Headhunter? You mean me? I haven't seen Headhunter here at all. Anyways I fixed it, but no colors yet.And guys, please keep flaming to a minimum, remember, when you are in an argument, and the other party begins to raise their voice(or begin to flame for that matter) then you know you've
won the argument. Keep that in mind. Thanks guys. Carry on.I didn't plan to get involved in the discussion, but I must make one point.
Cheapshot
In my understanding, none of us are neccasarily against mod packs, but rather the lack of permission from the technic pack creators. Just wanted to clarify, correct me if I'm wrong. -
One of the few current threads in the suggestion section that I actually like. +1 from me!
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I fail to see how this thread serves any "good" purpose?
I honestly didn't think it would be much use myself, but out of respect to RichardG, I decided that if the parties want to continue the argument than they can do it here. Use it or not, but I have the arguments written here. -
Risking further discussion on the technic pack in this thread I've created a thread designed for it. Use it or not, but don't discuss it here anymore. Thanks guys.
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User KakerMix :
Woah hey now here is some hate. This isn't really fair to RichardG and his thread, but sure lets chat.First off CovertJaguar:
We don't ask permission, we still don't. The permission has been given to us through various means, usually after people find out that we aren't assholes and that we truly and honestly love the mods and appreciate the creators. The reason we don't bother saying anything about it (usually) is because we don't want to cause drama between the modders themselves if we can help it.To HeadHunter67:
You do not speak for Eloraam. You may have an idea on what she is like but you are grossly mistaken in this instance. She loves that picture, and you are stretching far to try to frame that as derogatory toward Eloraam. She, unfortunately, has a sense of humor.
Our 'site' isn't about grace, tact or class, I don't know why you'd come in all smug and try to point that out to us.
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User CovertJaguar :
=Quoted from "KakerMix"=
"Woah hey now here is some hate. This isn't really fair to RichardG and his thread, but sure lets chat.First off CovertJaguar:
We don't ask permission, we still don't. The permission has been given to us through various means, usually after people find out that we aren't assholes and that we truly and honestly love the mods and appreciate the creators. The reason we don't bother saying anything about it (usually) is because we don't want to cause drama between the modders themselves if we can help it. "Doesn't change the fact that you don't and never had permission to include Railcraft. And aren't likely to get it either, since you didn't bother to ask first.
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User HeadHunter67 :=Quoted from "KakerMix"=
"We don't ask permission, we still don't. The permission has been given to us through various means, usually after people find out that we aren't assholes"So, you admit to using others' work without permission, and then claim you're not assholes? Okay. If you say so.
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"She loves that picture, and you are stretching far to try to frame that as derogatory toward Eloraam. She, unfortunately, has a sense of humor.
Our 'site' isn't about grace, tact or class, I don't know why you'd come in all smug and try to point that out to us."And I'm sure that the more idiotic of your followers feel the same way? Or do they think that it's a dig on her and that's how they feel too? Because the remarks in the comments put lie to your words.
And if you're not about grace, tact, or class, then I don't see why you have an issue with me calling it like I see it. don't like the taste of your own medicine?
And, for the record, I didn't "come in"... I was already here.
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User Cadde :
Copyright law is quite clear on the subject of "redistributing other peoples work without explicit given permission to do so"
If you haven't received written permission to redistribute other peoples work then you are NOT allowed to do so. It doesn't matter if you send the author a million dollars as compensation. You are still not permitted to redistribute without consent!Anyone who owns the copyrights on software can chose to file a claim. That means, if you (mr technic pack person) is living in any of the countries where copyright can be enforced and can be linked to a person (for instance, if you live in France then finding out who you are is EASY because of the new laws they have implemented) then YOU can be forced to pay compensation to the owner of the copyrights. Considering the number of mods you have in Technic pack that you don't have permission for redstributing that could be a years worth in salary.
So maybe you should ease up a little and remove all the mods you don't have permission to redistribute before someone takes action and then it's all going to go downhill for you.Don't believe me? Google some and find out that it has happened before for far lesser infractions on copyrights and those people have been fined up to $300,000 in court.
I don't care how "nice a person" you are, if you openly admit to shitting at other peoples rights to their own works then you are nothing more than a failure...
Don't get me wrong, i think all MC mods should be open source and free to distribute (non commercially) modified or not. But if a developer of mod XYZ wishes for his work to stay under his control then you respect his wishes or you face the consequences of your actions.
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One more thing, if Eloraam, Alblaka or any of the other modders you say have given you permission to redistribute their work wants to revoke that permission they can do so whenever they feel like it. Tread lightly or they will do just that.
And did you know that even if the copyright holder doesn't want to hunt you down you are still breaking other laws that anyone can charge you for.
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User KakerMix:
Covertjaguar I'm not going to try to convince you we're great people or whatever. I don't need your respect to tell people your Railcraft mod is excellent, or link them to it, or encourage them to use the things you've created. I'm sorry you get more support questions though.
HeadHunter67 and Cadde: Screaming about things you don't understand and speaking for people you don't know. I'll take the personal insults toward me and others. Heck, I'll even accept the 'technic propoganda' (lol) that we spread around. What I won't accept though is the hollow threats made on the behalf of people you don't speak for. I'll talk directly to them without you being involved, just like I do now. I'd rather have everyone's permission but you two are the exact reason why I have a hard time giving this community a chance, your types make it absolutely toxic to everyone.
I didn't have permission in the first place and yet here we are, more legit than it started out as.
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User Vroomfonder :
From here:
http://www.minecraft.net/terms"Do not distribute anything we've made. This includes, but not limited to, the client or the server software for the game. This also includes modified versions of anything we've made."
"If you've bought the game, you may play around with it and modify it. We'd appreciate it if you didn't use this for griefing, though, and remember not to distribute the changes."
So, stop being silly. Have fun and be amazed that any of this stuff works together at all.
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User FnordMan :
=Quoted from "KakerMix"=
"I'd rather have everyone's permission but you two are the exact reason why I have a hard time giving this community a chance, your types make it absolutely toxic to everyone.
I didn't have permission in the first place and yet here we are, more legit than it started out as."Gee, I wonder why that is... Could it that your outright *STEALING* their work without their permission? And you wonder why you have trouble getting permission? Wow, talk about utterly stupid.
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