Posts by Talonius

There is now building and running cost info on the Resources needed tab as well as overall output values.

Reflectors turned out to a lot more expensive than I originally thought, heh. The quad cells were also more costly then what I originally thought too, I've tried to look over the numbers several times to see if I mis-calculated but I've not seen an error.

EU costs for parts also take into account machine processing.
UU Matter costs assume a scrap augmented Mass Fab., recycling costs are also included.
All machines used were unmodified 'Tier 1' machines.
Cost do not include the tin cells or uranium processing, since there are multiple sources for them (raw uranium ore or produced via a breeder)

For those that want numbers:

UUM EU cost: 166,666 EU plus 12,000 EU recycling cost = 178,666 EU.

Copper ingot: 0.3 UUM + (Macerator / 2) + Furnace = 54,390 EU
Copper plate: (8 * copper ingot) + Compressor = 435,920 EU

Dual uranium cell: Just a copper plate to combine two cells.
Quad uranium cell: 2 dual cells plus 3 more copper plates = 2,179,600 EU (More expensive than I origianlly worked out... I'm not sure why)

Coal dust: 0.15 UUM + Macerator = 27,600 EU
Tin dust: 0.3 UUM + (Macerator / 2) = 54,000 EU

Reflector: (4 * coal dust) + (4 * tin dust) + copper plate = 762,320 EU
Thick reflector: (4 * reflector) + copper plate = 3,485,200 EU (yikes)

I've added build cost / running cost info on the Reasources Needed tab, as well as the effect the running cost has on the reactor's overall output.

Heh, I knew reflectors were expensive but yikes.. I didn't realise how expensive until I added all the numbers up.

Quote from RichardG

The 420 design explodes mid-cycle due to the bugfixes I made

I unsure what these bug fixes are, thus I cannot mirror them in the planner.

That vent is drawing in 36 heat per sec and venting 20 heat per sec, the component vent beside it disposes of an additional 4 heat per sec.

This leaves a 12 heat per sec build up that melts the vent in 84 seconds.

Note to self: After fixing a bug.. uploading it would be a good idea too. *cough* oops.

I daren't realease that monstrocity out into the wild, it's got more jury-rigged and patched in code than planned code, heh. The damned thing really needs a re-write now that the system has changed quite a bit.

About Condensators:
1 Uranium Cell + 1 Condensator --> 40,000 total heat... A cost of 1 lapis (for LZHs) or 4 redstone (for RSHs) for the whole cycle, which made 1,000,000 EU.
1,000,000 EU per lapis
250,000 EU per redstone

Condensators are less effective as the heat ramps up really high as the heat per tick goes up rather rapidly as you pack more uranium together.
4 x Quad Uranium Cells --> 9,600,000 total heat... A cost of 240 lapis or 960 redstone for the whole cycle, which made 80,000,000 EU.
333,333 EU per lapis
83,333 EU per redstone

Although you get more out of the condensators if you use them as an 'overflow' heat control. Attemping to purge most of the heat with vents before throwing the rest into an LZH or RSH.

Efficient or not, sometimes in Minecraft I like to throw away Efficency and Need and just say "To hell with it, I just want to build that monster" .. and have fun while doing it

Detecting whether a design is 'impossible' or not is difficult as exchangers can sometimes cling onto tiny scraps of heat.. I'll look over the design and see if I can tweak the detection to fix it.

Edit: I made the 'Impossible' detection a bit more lenient and swated a bug in the Effective EU/t code --> Fixed! (Note the time limit is set to 250 ticks)

Edit 2: Time Limit bug squished too, heh.

The planner stops the EU generation phase if the core reaches 85% heat or if a component melts. But to stop the phase early there's the Time Limit slider under the component icons.

Currently, (in 1.106, unless it was stealth-fixed), any exchangers that are processed before any type of plating will be using an incorrect value for the core's maximum heat

Eg, A reactor core at 15k heat: Heat Exchanger -> 10 x Reactor Plating -> Heat Exchanger

The first exchanger would 'see' the core temp is 15k out of 10k (150%) and melt itsself trying to match that.
The second exchanger would see 15k of 20k (75%) and balance itself to 75% too.

Edit: Component Exchangers are immune to this, as they don't touch the core.

Self-heating Breeder

A slight moddification to the self-heating breeder design in the OP, this one is a more expensive copper-wise but it heats up faster and won't be effected by the current plating/exchanger bug.

Ah, I appoligise... I'll submit a bug report right away, stating that the acronym for 'Constantly Applied Single Use Water Coolant' is missing the 'W'.

Also, Heating Cells cease functioning when the /core/ is at [Stacksize] * 1000 heat, even if the neighbouring components have less than the limit.

Breeders used to be a hassle to maintain.. heh, even I was reluctant to build them. But with the new system they're much easier to maintain, this leads to breeders being more common and more people able to squeeze approx. Efficiency * 10 million EU out of each ore.

Speaking of efficiency, higher levels of efficiency are now easier to obtain too.

Yes, it takes more logisitics to maintain a crazy high-end 'CASUC' design with Condensators and the new system, but the mid-range output designs are easier to do. So reactors now have less of a 'learning cliff' and more of a 'learning curve'... which overall I think is better.

Quote from Rick

They need a huge buff to make them usefull (huge meaning really huge 5x-10x maybe?)

I'd have to disagree...using a massfab, you can make lapis at a cost of roughly 80k EU each. So imagine a simple design with one LZH-Condenser next to a Quad uranium cell:

You get 12,000,000 EU
The cost to remake the lapis: 1,905,778 EU
The cost to remake the copper plates used in the quad uranium cell: 544,700 2,179,600 EU

Profit!: 9,549,522 7,914,622 EU

And that's with just using two cells on the grid

Edit: I apparently mis-calculated quite a bit, bah! ... I probably needed more coffee back then

Quote from Rick

The heating cells will heat it up to 18000 heat and the max heat is 18600 heat so it will start to melt blocks.

6 x Heat-Capacity Platings means +12,000 maxium heat, bringing the total to 22,000. 18,000 is just below the 85% threashold, although personally I'd add a couple more platings for added safety.