Posts by MatLaPatate

Glass = Raw Si ? I do not agree.
There is impurities in glass. And what would be useful by getting glass from stone/cobblestone/lava when you can do it easily with a simple Macerator + Furnace ?

Very bad Idea.
Yes, rock is made from melten ore, and they are metal in.
But it's a very little percentage I think.
At worth, we could make a more advanced machine wich would turn ore into a lot of different dust a single ore. (Thinking, for example, that Copper Ore contain very often up to 20% Iron)
I agree with finding a very little % of ore in this stone. But thinking we can make it with lava sources and water ...
However, we could have a special stone wich couldn't be created by Lava (and avoiding ore gen) but wich could be used in a sorts of special macerator (a very advanced one, wich would use something like 128 EU) to give you metal and others ...
And to create lava sources, I already did a thread speaking about Tier IV (I know, it has been denied and denied, and denied again) and I had suggested a "High Temperature Furnace" allowing you to turn OBSIDIAN (and no cobble/stone!) into Lava sources (and with what I suggested, it had several (other) usage for it, but this is not the point)

Edit: I saw Gregorius talks about using it wihtout "Lava Maker", but if you could create Iron from Lava, you would go in the nether with a full inventory of Cells/Bucket, or simply using directly the system in the nether to produce Iron ingot in.
With Buildcraft it would be OP, considering you won't need tin for this transformation :p

Quote from GregoriusT

As soon as i have enough time and understanding of MC-Code, i will add it to an IC²-Addon.

(Sorry, I use a lot of " " as a noob/12-years-old/stupid guy, but, considering it was my Thread and so, something I would like to be in IC, I would be very hapy if you really do it, so I support you )

It could create a random seeds, with a very little chance giving you something like ferrulea seed.
But yes, it would be against the first aim of the Breeding system: giving you something else to do after having the Q-suit.

I thougt we would need one for Tier II useful when you've MFE but no MFSU (and storing arround 50 000 EU) and one for for Tier III (arround 200 000, using the first LESU in the middle, and others ressources arround, but cheaper that the first one, even if you would need 1 advanced circuit to craft it)

+1 for you RawCode

Me too. Stopping this thread could be a good idea.

lol.
Is it useful in anyway for this threads ? Some things are finite, some others no.
The question is about GreenGen.
If Solar panel could burn, should the normal gen be repaired because of the constant heat he used to produce energy ?
Should GeoGen be washed after usage because of stone from cooled lava ?
Should Fuel/Uranium make polution ?
I think there's just some people who want it finite because they:
-Don't know how to use it. (--> it's their problems)
-Know how to use it, but think they could be more powerful and richer on their servs if it was finite. (same thing)
-Find that producing Matter with Solar Pannel/Windmill is OP because of the fact that servers are always running, and GreenGen producing a lot of EU--> UU-Matter while people are AFK/not on the serv, and that makes IC² a bit like EE [I use this fact but I think it's a problem). (--> So just add a config option to avoid EU to be produced while nobody is on the server(I think it already do not count unloaded chunks, isn't it ?) But in Single Player, no PB with GreenGen.

"1 stack of Maceated Tin Ore becomes 2 stacks of Tin.
2 stacks of Tin becomes 512 empty cells
512 lava cells translates into 10,240,000 EU... (512*20,000)"

And with 10 000 000 EU, you can make a little bit more than 3*5=15 tin ore.
And wihtout the lava sources.
GeoGen are not OP, thinking that if they are more useful at the begining of the game because of amazing output, but at end it's not infinite.
It's good like that, why do some people want to change the system ? It's perfect! (I'm juste annoyed about windmill breaking ^^)

Quote from SpwnX

Yep, otherwise you will be creating energy from nothing

And as a french guy I would say, quoting Lavoisier "Rien ne se perd, rien ne se créé, tout se transforme" (Nothing is lost, nothing is created, all can be turned into other things)
That's the basic law of the physic/chimy.
And Burning Hydrogen isn't very efficient: 60% wasted energy, vs 10 for using it in ionic Battery.

In fact, steel is obtained by smelting Iron with Coal, because of particles wich do not burn.
Then, if thinking to add something to make steel with coal and Iron, why not simply make that Iron Dust/Ore would be directly turned into Refined Iron (=Steel) when smelting ?

I meant that crossbreeding is above all usefull in order to make aurelia or ferrulea, not to make wheat.

+1 for you, I agree with that, even if watermill are not supposed to be used in water tower.

lol.
Watermill would be OP if creating 1EU/t.
2 EU per gen (i do not count the wood, of course) Vs the amazing cost of the solar panel ?

You know that Agriculture system is not for produce food ?
It's in order to try Crossbreeding, so break it when walking on is a good way to advantage people finding crops with high resistance level.

Quote from Two

Currently Water Mills produce at best 0.25EU per tick, then loose at least 10% of that on the first cable block. It is required to directly link water mills with a collector or transformer as otherwise too much EU is lost. This in general increases the cost of a single water mill by the Batboxes you have to add, and therefore beyond the cost of wind or solar generators, while producing a lot less EU and building a water works tower is way more complicated.

I think 1 EU / mill (unmanned) is the right amount. This would make them as efficient/material as wind mills (~2EU if placed correctly) but with a guaranteed output. The drawback is the difficulty in building a proper water mill tower, which is way more complicated than placing wind or solar generators, but then produces a more reliable output.

I think the material cost can stay the same, as you need a Batbox or MV-converter every 3-4 water mills if you build a tower of them to not loose too much EU on the cable.

1 EU/t ??? are you completly mad ? It's as the Solar Panel Output, wich is harder to get (and the craft give only one)
Watermill are not used to create EU in Water Tower, they are used to produce EU Vs the Steve's attention (I mean to produce EU with using Infinite Water Source, Bucket and the GUI)
They are a good way to start, that's all.

XD
Learn how to use IC² before criticize it
As Greg sais --> Lossless mode wrench ? Use much more energy but it's completly safe

Indeed, some of these don't make sense ... (creating glowdust with Enddust ? MACERATING DIAMOND ?? And other high-tech pieces ? I guess it would break them, not regive yo their components ...

... Fridge permiting to save food and food spoiling have already been denied.
Sorry.
And ... It could be a good idea for Ice Block, but making a machine only for that ? even if it could for exemple make coolant cells regain faster their durability, you can already make Ice from compressor^2, so ...
A bit useless

+1 for Fuse too.
But passin is right. It's too much work (I mean code) just to have cheaper Transformer: They are already cheap. (Because with resitance you would have losses)