I just read the 4 last pages of this thread and i still confused.
What i want is to pump all my nearby lava pockets into some steam engines, send the energy to an petrochemical generator and send the EUS to my mass core.
I am intending do something similar to oil (making fuel first).
This is worthy or i will just destroy lava and oil?
Oil/Fuel yes. Lava... you'll get more energy if you use geothermal generators.
new download in OP for the adventurous.
Display MoreThanks for the info. Since I have never used the oil thing not sure if I will disable it or try to use it...
I use its the Produces 20 buckets of oil per UU-matter? So 1mil EU = 20 buckets of oil?
I see the following settings:
# The number of buckets of oil produced per UU-mater.Valid entries are 1, 5, 10, 15, and 20. Default = 20
OilMaterializerConversionRatio=20
Since I have no clue about what you can do in BC yet could you tell me what the total of energy you can convert back to IC from 20 buckets of refined oil?
There is a 50% energy loss from converting UU-matter to oil, not counting any scrap used to make the UU-matter. So 20 buckets of oil = 500k EU.
According to the OP the pipes send alot less energy than what they should send but its still doesnt explaing, why when you put the industrial engine next to the energy convertor
its still about 1/5 of the amount it should have created. And thats without any pipes..
Energy converter isn't part of this mod, you will have to ask whoever made it.
Can you add more configurable variables? Like inputs and outputs from all machines. Because i connect IndustrialEngine to petrochemical generators (20), next to MFSU. Put LapotronCrystal to IE, launch it. And at the end i have... Only 230k EU! Why?..
Energy Pipe Bug.
silentdeth First of all I want to thank you for this mod! I used other power converter mods and it lagged like hell. You managed to make it run much smoother and, again, you have my thanks.
Getting to the point: on my install of Minecraft I also use Forestry which produces, among other things, biofuel and biomass. I tried to use both with the petrochemical generator and it doesn't accept it. Is there any way I can make this work? Looked into the config file but there is no setting to allow other liquid fuels. It would be logical, more fun and actually LESS overpowered to be able to only use the biofuel ( which is distilled from the biomass). Could you please look into this?!
Hope to hearing from you soon.
Cheers!
Really it just doesn't work right now because Spacetoad moved to fuel to the API after I coded it. I intend to enable it eventually, no ETA. It is just hard to do right now with the BC energy pipe bugs, I can't test to see if it works right.
Then I hope the bug was fixed in 3.0. Related subject, and progress made to make this 3.0 compatible? I figured the 3.0B could be used as a code reference for changes made from 2.x-3.0
I don't currently intend to upgrade to 3.x until it supports SMP. Which according to his milestones is set for 3.3.0. I could feel like programming and have nothing better to work on, but I doubt it.
I think I figured out the oddness. My Refinery ran out of oil, so it full stopped - I erroneously attributed it to the now-red engine. As for the explosion effect, I need to double-check, but I believe it's because the crossover loads first.
Crossover must load first to work correctly, to overwrite the file. The explosion effect is explicitly overwritten in the crossover code. If you are experiencing the explosion effect then that means it is invoking BC code, which can happen if TileEngine.class is not overwritten.
Has this been addressed to SpaceToad?
Last I checked there has been no reply to the bug report, nor any tickets opened to fix it. He seems to be ignoring 2.x stuff.
Okay, then I must have a weird bug then. Attaching a Large Electric Engine direct to a Refinery left the Refinery blue when powered. Putting Conductive Pipes between them got it green.
(this bug might be non-related; I just drag-updated the Forge/Optifine pair when they had updates instead of refreshing the minecraft.jar and reinstalling the prereqs and Optifine. It's likely that there may have been some oddities.)
Yes, I reported this bug on the BC forums a few weeks ago.
Bukkit version updated, thanks to cpw.
I tried the petrochemical generator and i see some major issues with the way it convers energy
i used steam engine with 1 coal which is, in a generator 4000 EU
then when i saw the outcome it was only 1500 Eu ~
also i used the industrial electric engine with lapotron crystal that had 1 million EU and the outcome was 172500 Eu....
if you lose more than 80% of the eu in the procces of converting it i cant see how the petrochemical generator can be useful or is it even intended to be that way - with so much power loss?
- WARNING: There is a bug with BC energy pipes that causes them to transfer much less energy than they should. This is a BC bug, I cannot fix it.
Interesting notes about the Petrochemical Generator:
Oil in the Petrochemical Generator gives 50000 EU, larger than a single BatBox can hold. At 10 EU/t, it takes 5000 ticks to fully burn the Oil. Fuel gives 625000 EU, or a 1250% increase over Oil. At 25 EU/t, it takes 25000 ticks to fully burn. Again, this means that a single MFE cannot hold the entire amount without transmitting some of that energy.
true.
Attempting to use engines to power a Petrochemical Generator is inefficent - you expend slightly more energy than you generate, with larger engines being even more inefficent. Connected to the generator with one Wood and one Gold Conductive Pipe, a cold Steam Engine gives 1500 EU per Coal (a Generator burns Coal at 4000 EU); a conventional cold-started Combustion Engine gives 27000 EU per Oil, and 508500 EU per Fuel. DO NOT use a Large or Industrial Electric Engine to power a Petrochemical Generator - you will lose metric craptons of EU, as the capacity of the Generator is exceeded. Linked spare Redstone Engines might be your best option if you must use Conductive Pipes as a power source.
- WARNING: There is a bug with BC energy pipes that causes them to transfer much less energy than they should. This is a BC bug, I cannot fix it.
Serial connections to the Petrochemical Generator is a bad idea, due to the Buildcraft bug noted in previous posts in this thread - energy is for some reason lost with a direct connection to non-pipe objects. This seems to transfer over to the generator, as the held EU in an adjacent storage box is not divisible by 25, and there's leftover in the generator which cannot be removed without more energy. Even connecting away from the generator, you need to connect the engines to at least one non-wood Conductive Pipe for it to transmit.
not true. Direct connections result in no energy loss.
Electric Engines decrease in efficency the more "hot" they run, to the point where a red engine delivers barely any energy. If they run to the point where they would have exploded had they been a conventional Buildcraft engine, the overheat will cause explosion effects around the engine, (though it won't damage anything,) which will make it fairly difficult if you have a crap computer to get to the switch. The effect ceases once the engine no longer recieves power.
While the fact that they don't blow up like regular Buildcraft engines makes them more reliable, they aren't quite as efficent as their comparative regular engine, as these start at max speed and only slow down if not properly cooled, while regular engines start at this speed and speed up as they warm up. I'd take a Large Electric Engine to five Combustion Engines any day of the week, though.
If you are experiencing the explosion effect, then something is installed wrong such the TileEngine.class did not get overwritten.
They do not product less BC energy as they overheat, only use more EU.
Regular BC engines do not change the amount of energy produced regardless of how hot they are, it is constant. Except for redstone engines, which are a special case.
Great
Just waiting for the patches. Any change for an Buildcraft description too?
You shouldn't have to decompile BC, you can download the source directly.
Display MoreSo, this is a post about modding IC2.
To do so, you'll generally need to decompile it. Firstly you'll need to grab MCP5.0 from http://mcp.ocean-labs.de/index.php/MCP_Releases.
Unzip/extract that file to somewhere. Follow it's instructions and make sure you can decompile the vanilla client and server.
To decompile IC2, you'll need the same mods that you have already: ModLoader, ModLoaderMP, and minecraft forge.
Replace your vanilla jars in the MCP jars folder with the modded ones (avoid any mods other than those three in the jar files).
To decompile IC2, you'll need to add in IC2 to the jars. For this, I normally extract the client and server jars to temporary directories and run "jar uf <path to the right one of minecraft.jar or minecraft_server.jar>" from the temporary extraction directories.
Finally, you'll need the compressed file here http://www.mediafire.com/?xmpgh41i5focmpc (sorry, it's mediafire, but the forums won't accept tar.gz files, and I hate using zip).
This contains two patches (one client, one server) and a script which calls into MCP to decompile, before applying the patches and then decompiling again (successfully, the second time).
I am truly sorry that this is probably a linux/cygwin only solution, but MCP does not want to cooperate in building a useful patching environment, so I've had to work around the fun and games there. More info in my detail post below: http://forum.industrial-craft.…ad&postID=29078#post29078
I dunno how technically difficult it would be, but it seems to me the easiest thing to do would be to resolve the issue modloader has deobfuscating enum list. That way it wouldn't require you to keep update this every time there is a new version of IC2.
Codejava.lang.Exception: mod_BCIC2Crossover 1.14 for MC 1.0, BC 2.2.11, IC2 1.43 is missing dependency: mod_IC2
IC2 is definitely installed, I have been using it for a while. Buildcraft appears to be working as well.
Not sure what could be causing the issue.
post the entire modloader.txt. Most probably you have a block ID conflict, or the zips are loading in the wrong order, which should only happen on non-windows servers.
More info. Looks like a gui problem. I noticed that if I logout with items in the OM they are not there on re-log, also, tried pumping in some uu matter and that worked, oil started coming out the other side, but the gui did not show any change. Going to do some gui swapping and see if that gets it.
Tank with oil works fine btw.
stranger and stranger. I will see if I can reproduce this in the morning but I don't I'll be able to as I tested OM quite a bit before I released 1.14.
Display MoreRunning into a Strange issue in SMP. Oil materializer will not let me pump any oil out of it. Standard wooden waterproof pipe and redstone engine. valid pipes and tanks are in place. Can anyone verify this ? Running 1.14b BCIC2 crossover Buildcraft 2.2.11, and IC2 1.43 as well as many other mods listed in the modloader.txt
This only happens on my smp test server(windows) not my SSP game.
Also I will include my modloader and config file if anyone can point out something off with them. Any help is appreciated
Modloader.txt
http://pastebin.com/7szEUG3V
Config
**Note**
Configuration file on client and server are copies
Hmmm... not sure what is going on. Try pumping out from the side. Also try replacing the OM with a tank full of oil and see if that works.
Any chance we could get the petro gen's EU/t rate changed to 8/16 or 16/32. Same eu total output per oil/fuel would probaly be ok since I haven't noticed any issues there. But IC2's energy system works on a set of multiples of 8's largely. Batbox/copper cable=32eu/t, MFE/gold cable= 128eu/t, MFSU/glass fibre=512 eu/t. So basicly 4/2 petro generators would fully power a batbox. Ect. Instead of 1 burning fuel giving two thirds of a batbox or 3 oil still requiring you to add another 2 eu/t from elsewhere.
I'm disinclined to do so, while it would be convenient, it could lead to problems with modded fuel types. You would end up with a small amount of fuel left in the generator, not enough to burn for 1 tick of energy, nor would it be empty, thus you couldn't fill it with another fuel type.
