[problem]Energy distribution based solely on cable lengh not splits

RawCode · Dec 1st 2011

If you try to setup array of MSFU for parallel attachment of machines (this allow to pass over 512 EU per frame for massfab) there is no viable way to distribute energy evenly between SMFU blocks, there is NO WAY to provide equal cable lenght for more then 2 MSFU if you try to attach them in line.

No matter how you setup cables, one of MSFU is always closer and recieve more energy then others.

MSFU (and any other energy storage) will not work well, since you also not able to distribute output evenly.

If machine require 50 EU and MSFU provide 512, it will drain 50 energy from closes MSFU and ignore any other MSFU in net.
Ever if cable lengh equal, always one of machine is "closer".

If you place T1machine-LV-MV-HV-MSFU it will still drain 32 EU, it wont wait for transformators full discharge to recieve full packet, this ruin most energy distribution schemes.

Adding any collector block (MSFU MSF, batbox) result in bottleneck and completely ruin entire setup.
same with powered transformators, they will bottleneck system (actually its possible to setup them "well" but it require hurge space to prevent bottlenecks)

I provide screenshots of setup that allow to transport 512 EU over copper wires (glass fiber is used actually to prevent losses, but this 32 eu)

MSFU array (4 MSFU, then 4 MV, then 4 LV everything in parralel) (on screens few transformers removed to show system).

Massfab attached before trans drain 2048 per frame, othem machines have 512 per frame max (allow hurge setup over single wire) (machines removed on screens).

Energyloss is problem for such setup but you have 18 long wire for machines, on screenshooted setup 36 machines allowed and they all will work fine.

unmodded vanilla 123 without addons (no other mods) (SMP)

ps. powered transformators buffer energy, but will bottleneck just like energy storage blocks and this is not fun at all.

MJEvans · Dec 1st 2011

That is my observation as well. The transformers don't 'remember' they have the remaining 3/4th packet to dole out.

_Tim_ · Dec 1st 2011

This would explain my problem with one MFS unit being depleted before the other.

RawCode · Dec 2nd 2011

we need split cables or bufer blocks.

in case of split cable - it will split current and reset cable lenght for energynet

buffer block will request hurge amount of energy (to drain every machine on energy net at once) - basically ionistor storage.

request 100 times more energy then its tier (lv ionistor request 320 eu at one and stop requesing energy till full deplition, then again request full amount, it will bottleneck a bit, but, will allow evenly distribution of energy.

werewolf_nr · Dec 4th 2011

Quote from RawCode

we need split cables or bufer blocks.

in case of split cable - it will split current and reset cable lenght for energynet

buffer block will request hurge amount of energy (to drain every machine on energy net at once) - basically ionistor storage.

request 100 times more energy then its tier (lv ionistor request 320 eu at one and stop requesing energy till full deplition, then again request full amount, it will bottleneck a bit, but, will allow evenly distribution of energy.

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This would explain some of the weirdness I get on my energy system. I suspected that keeping my induction furnace warm was costing a lot more than 1 eu/t. I've found that batboxes help by buffering things a bit.

This might also be why non-IC machines (that use eu) seem to draw power from the net oddly. I've had to buffer all of them or they seem to pull either not enough or way too much power.

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