[Suggestion] Please bring back old-school diesel fuel!

Aethir · Jul 25th 2012

IMHO the current system of re-usable 'fuel cans' makes fossil/biofuels WAY more hassle than they are worth... being unstackable makes them almost pointless as a method of energy transfer given their limited EU capacity. Please don't mention lap-packs, batteries, uranium cells, Electrolyzers or any other form of portable energy - I know they exist, but I don't want to use them.

If balance is an issue (altho with the advent of high output nuclear, I can't see it), then make fuel more expensive to craft - 10x the plant material, or 4x the coal, whatever it takes - but please bring back my beloved diesel from the old IC days!

GregoriusT · Jul 25th 2012

I think Diesel is actually used by Buildcraft. IC² has already Superfuel, you just need the secret Recipe. Even when we could need renewable Tincells somehow, i dont think that its really necessary, as we have tons of Tin.

MatLaPatate · Jul 25th 2012

Some parts of the Fuel-System are being rewroked. Al already says he would maybe add a new gen for "Gas" he would add and BC-Oil with 30 EU/t output. But I threat the actual Fuel system won't be changed (Yes, I think it should produce more energy, use less tins, but we won't speak AGAIN about that, it comes every months on the forum ...)

Edit: I start writing it before Greg post it. And the problems of the tin-usage isn't just the tin losses, but it concern too the additional time you need for all these craft.

Aethir · Jul 25th 2012

when I said diesel, I meant that in the metaphoric sense...

as for adding BC-based generators - until BC and IC become one mod, that will be no use to me. I don't use BC.

Superfuel does exist, but what I'm angling at is a return to the old disposable 'fuel' - tin use be damned. I have loads of the stuff. But at present my only (relatively) portable power generators are geothermal, which are a pain in the ass because I have to keep heading back to the Nether and manning a pumping station for awhile. I also don't want a system whereby I have all my power generation centralised, and I have to use batteries or lap-packs or whatever. I want something that I can take on expeditions, so I can power a couple of miners while I fossik around through old mines.

MatLaPatate · Jul 25th 2012

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as for adding BC-based generators - until BC and IC become one mod, that will be no use to me. I don't use BC.

Didn't you see the "Gas" mention ? It would be from IC ...

I don't now · Jul 25th 2012

Just for the ones who didn't use IC: Fuel was created like this( =nothing, because it didn't exist):

->Clumpy Fuel

Clumpy Fuel->Extractor->

And because of ~~order from the government~~ request of a few customers, biofuel was introduced.

->Clumpy Biofuel

Clumpy Biofuel->Extractor->

And if you added light from above, energy from below and explosives around fuel, you could TOTALLY NOT create Superfuel.

Single-Use Batteries were made like this:

And had 10000 EU, it was totally not possible to create them using Biofuel or not-existant Superfuel.

I don't now if the old system was requested or just stackable fuel, but here you can read how the old system worked. The missing "k" was intended.

Aethir · Jul 27th 2012

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I don't now if the old system was requested or just stackable fuel, but here you can read how the old system worked.

I'd settle for fuel being stackable... that's my main problem with the current fuel system: being unstackable makes fuel cans a waste of space, IMHO.

RawCode · Jul 30th 2012

untackable fuel with HAYO variable fuel value is soo HAYO you just cant understant its hayoness

3 tiers was perfectly good, since item ids nealy unlimited tiers may be extended to 6 or 10 but STACKABLE inside same tier.
Rounding down fuel power to closest tier and provide output can with corresponding tier == win, tiers will be 5000 10k 20k ... 80k 100k;
extra fuel power can be stored inside canner and dumped in next fuel can in cycle.

And also number of win combinations are:
3 fuel 3 spice, in most cases fuel type and spice not mixed, soo its only 6 combinations;

Aethir · Aug 5th 2012

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untackable fuel with HAYO variable fuel value is soo HAYO you just cant understant its hayoness

no, I just don't understand your last post... well I almost do? lol

variable fuel values be damnéd, though. Surely the old tin-burning method can't be that hard to re-implement; nor can I see any spectacular advantages to the setup we have now...

GregoriusT · Aug 5th 2012

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no, I just don't understand your last post... well I almost do? lol

You just cant really understand the hayoness of unstackable, but recycleable, Fuelcans...

[Suggestion] Please bring back old-school diesel fuel!

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