From what I remember it was late into 1.6.4 that it was all disabled, although Uncomplication was only available from 1.7.10. The Uncomplication thread is here in case you were wondering.
Posts by Chocohead
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Considering even with classic 4, 5 and 6 still apply, it's probably a lost cause. Although I wouldn't define such as hard line between casual and hardcore, Gregtech still exists for the true hardcore people, IC2 is somewhere in the middle.
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Since IC was first released
It was only since v4, but unless you'd only ever played some of the earliest Beta 1.3 versions of IC1 then never anything else until now, you'd have experienced the mechanic. There's not any chance of loss using a wrench now anyway, so in many ways it's less punishing than it's been for years.
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Hi, I'm tried to run gt1.10.2 but got a exeption:
[15:34:33] [Client thread/ERROR] [FML/]: Caught exception from GregTech (gregtech)
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: ic2/core/item/ItemUpgradeModule$UpgradeType
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) ~[?:1.8.0_91]only mods used:
gregtech-5.10.06
industrialcraft-2-2.6.129-ex110
jei (tried without, no luck)
Forge Mod Loader version 12.18.3.2185can you advice me something on that?
You'll want to use IC2 2.6.107 or below until GT updates to 108+
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Where about are you putting the fluid ports in the 5x5x5 structure? Are they at the edges or in the middle?
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Why be dependent on someone else's mod to fulfill a function that should rightly be set in this one?
Because the function to switch between fundamentally different power systems isn't one IC2 wants:
As it stands, the Electric Engine is a 6 EU->20 RF (per tick) conversion rate, with a few addons to change the efficiency/output in various ways. That's what's setting the 'value' of EU in an otherwise RF-based system. (I'm using RF instead of FE or whatever here because that's what I see everywhere in every other mod's GUI.) Another mod, effectively, is telling every other mod how much IC2 energy is worth (and requires you to have it specifically, since it's the only game in town at this point).
Why not have two blocks (or combine the function into one like a transformer, idk) for converting RF<->EU? (Optionally with some sort of internal buffer, but that's getting into the weeds more than I really want to here.) That way, within core IC2, the developers can make the decision on the 'currency exchange rate' (so to speak) between EU and RF, and if necessary add some sort of config option to tweak it more easily. That just seems to me to be the obvious option to lay this topic to rest, since I know it's come up before multiple times.
The electric engine exists for the sake of being able to run Forestry farms on EU. The rate is actually quite bad considering it's normally considered to be 1 EU = 4 RF (if you look at coal in generators), but that's Forestry encouraging you to use circuit board to make it better, or to just an RF power source (such as the other engines it adds).
It's those two factors (rate and encouragement to be used) that is crucial to any conversion. Rate in this case is normally taken to be 1 EU = 4 RF, but if you look at other parts then it can be 1 EU = 8.3 RF, 1 EU = 12 RF or even if you look at consumption a macerator takes 2 EU/t to run, other mods equivalents can take hundreds of RF/t to run, which suddenly makes the rate rather big. And depending on this rate will give the other factor - will it be used. If the rate is terrible people won't bother, defeating the whole effort, but if it's too good then people will start exploiting it. The fact there's no definitively correct conversion is why trying to convert between EU and RF/FE/T is never a good idea, either you'll end up never making IC2's generators or it will be too expensive to try and you'll just take another route. Even if there was a good perfect ratio, it gives the completely wrong message to people that IC2 can be powered using RF, as people won't bother making IC2 generators if they can just hook up their several thousand a tick RF power and be done with it. The other way slightly less so, as investing in IC2's infrastructure is normally going to be much more expensive than an equivalent RF, but that just leaves people to use RF generators for RF things and their IC2 setup for IC2 (which in the end is the best solution as people can experience the mods as they were intended).
Forestry's method in many ways is a very good, as it encourages using Forestry's only mechanics to make it better for EU -> RF, and RF -> EU is a long drawn out process to make you work for being lazy in an attempt to avoid making it too cheap. Immersive Engineering is a good example the otherway, where it just automagically converted with it's wires at 1 EU = 4 RF, causing everyone to use them instead of IC2 and now it's been fully removed from IE because Blu wasn't happy what had happened. Overall whilst IC2 doesn't have anything itself, the fact there are mods that can do it mean it is up to people what they want. It's not like you're missing out from making both sets of power generation anyway.
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Forestry as the only currently available 1.8+ mod that actually does EU to RF (technically Forge Energy I've been told) conversion? and nothing for the other way around?
Directly yes. Mekanism cables are meant to be able to, but people have been having mixed results with it working, mostly not, and they crash you when you break them anyway. You can generate EU via some RF consuming method such as pumping lava or making biofuel, but there's nothing like the electric engine.
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The mod in the addons section might not be, but it looks to me like Immersive Engineering is available for 1.8+:
https://minecraft.curseforge.com/project…ive-engineeringIt might be, but it's cables can't even move EU from 1.8. There is an addon for it to be able to move EU, but there's no way to use it to convert RF to EU (or the other way) anymore.
Also, as far as Forge Energy, from what I've been able to find out about it, that is difficult for normal players to distinguish from RF. In fact, afaik, the unit involved is still called RF, even if the API is called Forge Energy.
Fundamentally it is RF, but instead of being implemented by interfaces it uses capabilities. And a lot of the unit confusion is mods supporting a collection of RF, Tesla and Forge Energy and not acting any differently no matter what they're receiving.
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There is a Mod for that in the Addons Section.
Also Immersive Engineering has a System that turns RF into EU when connected to IC2 Machines.
Neither are for 1.8+ though. Suppose RF is also dying for the newer versions though, it would be Tesla or Forge Energy people would want instead.
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Move your power generation closer to where you're actually using power is best way.
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Ah yeah, an optimisation upset them, fix incoming.
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from what i readed was he wanted to detect when a EU item is empty or full. Since he can not see the NBTTag but the ItemDamage i throught that would be a way of detecting the chargelevel (not acurate but still relyable) of an EU Item.
You're reading it completely wrong, he wants a way to spawn in items that have charge via a Bukkit plugin's command.
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There is no difference between modded and vanilla nbt tags, but from what you're saying is, that they can't deal with nbt tags at all.
Each vanilla tag is likely hardcoded syntax wise, so ours wouldn't be recognized.
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Fundamentally the item damage is detached from the charge, it's only used for drawing the damage bars. So you could spawn in an electric thing with any damage, it would still really be empty.
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IC2 2.6.108 added caps for the number of warnings the enet gives in an amount of time, so that should massively reduce the number of errors sent to the console. The actual issue could theoretically be fixed our side by manually posting unload events to broken tiles, but finding what the tile should've been instead of null could be quite hard and slow.
The wires being naughty bug is completely separate, the only reason you're likely to see it is teleporting around seems to not always load things properly, similarly to how the bug reports mention coming back from the nether sometimes doing it. It's one of a few hard to chase down bugs that are stuck on the todo list.
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Not sure if this was intended or not, but searching in JEI with @advanced only pulls up the Sharpened Iron Plate. All the other machines you've added are under the IC2 main label, which is a little confusing when I'm looking to see what specifically you added.
Not really much I can do about that, the way the tile entity using blocks are made goes through IC2's system which then gets them marked as IC2's.
This can be fixed by subclassing AdvShapedRecipe and returning new ItemStack[9]; as getContainerItems();
Indeed it would, fixed in the upcoming update.
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Crafting recipe (you can disable some crafting recipes in config file):
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What were you doing to get the crash? Nothing points to IC2 directly breaking from the crash itself.
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Hi! Just want to submit bug report. Minecraft crashes when you break Molecular Transformer with IC2 drill.
here is crash report:
http://pastebin.com/W0d5tTTfFixed in v4.04 (that should be on Curse shortly)
