[GregTech] Industrial Efficiency Analysis

1st Official Post

    List of all possible products from various ore-processing methods. Note that this assumes you have Fortune III and Silk Touch available, as you otherwise cannot obtain all the ore blocks or attempt the Fortune Route.


    Note: Crushed/Purified/Centrifuged ores smelt to 10 nuggets. Choose between a nugget of the primary product or 1/10 of the tertiary byproduct at your discretion.


    Key:
    - IndG Route with Water
    - IndG Route with Mercury
    - IndG Route with Sodium Persulfate


    Coal Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 2.2 Coal (↑ Coal)
    - UMac Route: 2 Coal Dust, 1/10 Coal Dust, 2/9 Coal Dust, 2/9 Th, 2/10 Th (↑ Th)
    - IndG Route: 1 Coal, 2 Coal Dust (↑ Coal Dust)


    Tetrahedrite Ore:
    - UMac Route: 2 Cu, 1/10 Sb, 2/9 Sb, 2/9 Zn, 2/10 Zn (↑ Sb)
    - IndG Route: 2 Cu, 1/4 Sb, 1/4 Zn, 2/9 Zn, 2/10 Zn
    - IndG Route: 3 Cu, 1/4 Sb, 1/4 Zn, 3/9 Zn, 3/10 Zn (↑ Cu, Zn)


    Cassiterite Ore:
    - UMac Route: 4 Sn, 1/10 Sn, 4/9 Sn, 4/9 Sn, 4/10 Sn (↑ Sn)
    - IndG Route: 4 Sn, 2/4 Sn, 4/9 Sn, 4/10 Sn


    Iron Ore:
    - IndB Route: 3 Fe (↑ Fe)
    - UMac Route: 2 Fe, 1/10 Ni, 2/9 Ni, 2/9 Sn, 2/10 Sn
    - IndG Route: 2 Fe, 1/4 Ni, 1/4 Sn, 2/9 Sn, 2/10 Sn
    - IndG Route: 2 Fe, 1 Ni, 1/4 Sn, 2/9 Sn, 2/10 Sn (↑ Ni, Sn)


    Nickel Ore:
    - UMac Route: 2 Ni, 1/10 Co, 2/9 Co, 2/9 Pt, 2/10 Fe (↑ Co)
    - IndG Route: 2 Ni, 1/4 Co, 1/4 Pt, 2/9 Pt, 2/10 Fe
    - IndG Route: 2 Ni, 1/4 Co, 1 Pt, 2/9 Pt, 2/10 Fe (↑ Pt)
    - IndG Route: 3 Ni, 1/4 Co, 1/4 Pt, 3/9 Pt, 3/10 Fe (↑ Ni, Fe)


    Gold Ore:
    - UMac Route: 2 Au, 1/10 Cu, 2/9 Cu, 2/9 Ni, 2/10 Ni
    - IndG Route: 2 Au, 1/4 Cu, 1/4 Ni, 2/9 Ni, 2/10 Ni
    - IndG Route: 3 Au, 1/4 Cu, 1/4 Ni, 3/9 Ni, 3/10 Ni (↑ Au, Ni)
    - IndG Route: 2 Au, 1 Cu, 1/4 Ni, 2/9 Ni, 2/10 Ni (↑ Cu)


    Redstone Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 6 Redstone
    - UMac Route: 10 Redstone, 1/10 HgS, 10/9 HgS, 10/9 Glowstone, 10/10 Glowstone (↑ HgS)
    - IndG Route: 10 Redstone, 1/4 HgS, 1/4 Glowstone, 10/9 Glowstone, 10/10 Glowstone (↑ Glowstone)


    Lapis Lazuli Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 13.2 Lapis Lazuli (↑ Lapis Lazuli)
    - UMac Route: 12 Lapis Dust, 4/10 Lazurite Dust, 12/9 Lazurite Dust, 12/9 Sodalite Dust, 12/10 Pyrite Dust (↑ Sodalite Dust, Pyrite Dust)
    - IndG Route: 6 Lapis Lazuli, 36/4 Lapis Dust, 8/4 Lazurite Dust (↑ Lapis Dust)


    Sodalite Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 10 Sodalite Dust, 1 Aluminium Dust, 10/9 Lazurite Dust, 1/9 Bauxite Dust (↑ Bauxite Dust)
    - UMac Route: 12 Sodalite Dust, 4/10 Lazurite Dust, 12/9 Lazurite Dust, 12/9 Lapis Dust, 12/10 Lapis Dust (↑ Lapis Dust)
    - IndG Route: 6 Sodalite, 36/4 Sodalite Dust, 8/4 Lazurite Dust (↑ Sodalite, Sodalite Dust, Lazurite Dust)


    Diamond Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 2.2 Diamond (↑ Diamond)
    - UMac Route: 2 Diamond Dust, 1/10 Coal Dust, 2/9 Coal Dust, 2/9 Coal Dust, 2/10 Coal Dust (↑ Coal Dust)
    - IndG Route: 1 Diamond, 6/4 Diamond Dust, 2/4 Coal Dust (↑ Diamond Dust)


    Emerald Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 2.2 Emerald (↑ Emerald)
    - UMac Route: 2 Emerald Dust, 1/10 Be, 2/9 Be, 2/9 Al, 2/10 Al (↑ Al)
    - IndG Route: 1 Emerald, 6/4 Emerald Dust, 2/4 Be (↑ Emerald Dust, Be)


    Olivine Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 2.2 Olivine (↑ Olivine)
    - UMac Route: 2 Olivine Dust, 1/10 Pyrope Dust, 2/9 Pyrope Dust, 2/9 Mg, 2/10 Mg (↑ Mg)
    - IndG Route: 1 Olivine, 6/4 Olivine Dust, 2/4 Pyrope Dust (↑ Olivine Dust, Pyrope Dust)


    Ruby Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 2.5 Ruby, 0.27 Red Garnet (↑ Ruby, Red Garnet)
    - UMac Route: 2 Ruby Dust, 1/10 Cr, 2/9 Cr, 2/9 Red Garnet Dust, 2/10 Red Garnet Dust (↑ Red Garnet Dust)
    - IndG Route: 1 Ruby, 6/4 Ruby Dust, 2/4 Cr (↑ Ruby Dust, Cr)


    UselessiumSapphire Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 2.5 Sapphire, 0.27 Green Sapphire (↑ Sapphire, Green Sapphire)
    - UMac Route: 2 Sapphire Dust, 1/10 Al, 2/9 Al, 2/9 Green Sapphire Dust, 2/10 Green Sapphire Dust (↑ Green Sapphire Dust)
    - IndG Route: 1 Sapphire, 6/4 Sapphire Dust, 2/4 Al (↑ Sapphire Dust, Al)


    Iridium Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 1.5 Iridium (↑ Iridium)
    - UMac Route: 2 Iridium Dust, 2/10 Platinum Dust, 2/9 Platinum Dust, 2/9 Osmium Dust, 2/10 Osmium Dust (↑ Osmium)
    - IndG Route: 1 Iridium, 6/4 Iridium Dust, 2/4 Platinum Dust
    - IndG Route: 1 Iridium, 6/4 Iridium Dust, 2 Platinum Dust (↑ Iridium Dust, Platinum)


    Nether Quartz Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 2.2 Nether Quartz (↑ Nether Quartz)
    - UMac Route: 4 Nether Quartz Dust, 1/10 Netherrack Dust, 2/9 Netherrack Dust, 2/9 Netherrack Dust, 2/10 Netherrack Dust (↑ Netherrack Dust)
    - IndG Route: 2 Nether Quartz, 12/4 Nether Quartz Dust, 2/4 Netherrack Dust (↑ Nether Quartz Dust)


    Uranium Ore:
    - UMac Route: 2 Purified Uranium, 1/10 Pu, 2/9 Pb
    - IndG Route: 2 Purified Uranium, 1/4 Pu, 1/4 Pb (↑ Pu, Pb)


    Galena Ore:
    - UMac Route: 2 Galena Dust, 2/10 S, 2/9 S, 2/9 Ag, 2/10 Pb (↑ S)
    - IndG Route: 2 Galena Dust, 1/4 S, 1/4 Ag, 2/9 Ag, 2/10 Pb
    - IndG Route: 2 Galena Dust, 1/4 S, 1 Ag, 2/9 Ag, 2/10 Pb (↑ Ag)


    Bauxite Ore:
    - UMac Route: 8 Bauxite Dust, 4/10 Grossular Dust, 2/9 Grossular Dust, 2/9 Ti, 2/10 Ti
    - IndG Route: 8 Bauxite Dust, 4/4 Grossular Dust, 4/4 Ti, 2/9 Ti, 2/10 Ti (↑ Grossular Dust, Ti)


    Pyrite Ore: (Stop the processing at Centrifuged Pyrite Ore/Dirty Pile of Pyrite Dust, and smelt that into Iron Ingots.)
    - Fortune Route: 1.5 Fe
    - UMac Route: 2 Fe, 1/10 Sulfur, 2/9 Sulfur, 2/9 Phosphorus Dust (↑ S)
    - IndG Route: 2 Fe, 1/4 Sulfur, 1/4 Phosphorus Dust, 2/9 Phosphorus Dust (↑ Phosphorus Dust)


    Cinnabar Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 1.5 HgS, 0.6 Redstone Dust (↑ Redstone Dust)
    - UMac Route: 2 HgS, 1/10 Redstone Dust, 2/9 Redstone Dust, 2/9 Glowstone Dust, 2/10 Glowstone Dust
    - IndG Route: 2 HgS, 1/4 Redstone Dust, 1/4 Glowstone Dust, 2/9 Glowstone Dust, 2/10 Glowstone Dust (↑ HgS, Glowstone Dust)


    Sphalerite Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 2.5 Zn, 1/9 Sn, 0.18 Yellow Garnet (↑ Zn, Sn, Yellow Garnet)
    - UMac Route: 2 ZnS, 1/10 Zn, 2/9 Zn, 2/9 Yellow Garnet Dust, 2/10 Cd (↑ Cd)
    - IndG Route: 2 ZnS, 1/4 Zn, 1/4 Yellow Garnet Dust, 2/9 Yellow Garnet Dust, 2/10 Yellow Garnet Dust (↑ Yellow Garnet Dust)
    * Dirty Sphalerite Dust smelts to Zinc, but not clean Sphalerite dust.


    Tungstate Ore:
    - UMac Route: 2 Tungstate Dust, 1/10 Mn, 2/9 Mn, 2/9 Ag, 2/10 Li (↑ Mn)
    - IndG Route: 2 Tungstate Dust, 1/4 Mn, 1/4 Ag, 2/9 Ag, 2/10 Li
    - IndG Route: 2 Tungstate Dust, 1/4 Mn, 1 Ag, 2/9 Ag, 2/10 Li (↑ Ag)


    Sheldonite Ore:
    - UMac Route: 2 Cooperite Dust, 1/10 Pd, 2/9 Pd, 2/9 Ni, 2/10 Ir (↑ Pd)
    - IndG Route: 2 Cooperite Dust, 1/4 Pd, 1/4 Ni, 2/9 Ni, 2/10 Ir
    - IndG Route: 3 Cooperite Dust, 1/4 Pd, 1/4 Ni, 3/9 Ni, 3/10 Ir (↑ Cooperite Dust, Ni, Ir)
    - IndG Route: 2 Cooperite Dust, 1/4 Pd, 1 Ni, 2/9 Ni, 2/10 Ir (↑ Ni)


    Part 2

    How do you macerate Pyrite into 4 iron? Wouldn't it make more sense to fortune mine it for more dirty piles? Macerating it gives me 2 dirty piles, the same as mining it. Am I missing something?


    Tests with the Iridium drill have been giving me byproducts with ridiculous consistency, so something might be off compared to normal fortune, but cinabar also seems like a no-brainer to fortune mine. From your decription it's like they give 4 dusts when macerated, but in my tests they only give two.

    Edited 3 times, last by okaolias: Added the second paragraph ().

    Y U NO outright fortune III the nether ores? :(


    Seriously, fortune III with pyrite gives you over 3 dirty dusts/iron bars per ore easily. Mining normally, maceration and the IBF result in the same two iron ingots. The latter two just add more steps/waste more energy/waste catalysts (calcite's lack of worth nonwithstanding, it's still a waste)


    Cinnabar also macerates into two dusts. You get 2/9 glowstone instead of 1/4 and still lose 1/4 redstone. With Fortune III you seem to always get one redstone, plus over 3 cinnabar dust per ore on average, taking you to over 3/9=1/3 glowstone compared to 1/4 from the industrial macerator.


    Any form of processing pyrite is inefficient, and cinnabar is a maybe for the industrial grinder and a complete waste to macerate(you also lose the chance for redstone besides gaining the same ammount of dust)

    Quote from GregoriusT

    You shouldn't have said that, you should not have said that.


    WHAT HAVE I DONE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


    Seriously though, some reworking/rebalancing of the nether ore outputs to make processing them viable should be done, even if it means waving around the nerfstick a couple of times. Fortune III is kinda random and rare and valuable right now, but I wonder how the 1.8 enchanting overhaul will affect it. The iridium drill is far from cheap, but once you have it it'll always be around barring dropping it into lava.


    Edit: The above post was in fact just a friendly FYI in case you hadn't noticed the change in macerating, but reading it now it does come off as kinda ranty.

    Topic ran out of space, posting second part here:


    Non-GT Ores and Special Processing:


    Copper Ore:
    - UMac Route: 2 Cu, 1/10 Co, 2/9 Co, 2/9 Au, 2/10 Ni (↑ Co)
    - IndG Route: 2 Cu, 1/4 Co, 1/4 Au, 2/9 Au, 2/10 Ni
    - IndG Route: 2 Cu, 1/4 Co, 1 Au, 2/9 Au, 2/10 Ni (↑ Au)
    - IndG Route: 3 Cu, 1/4 Co, 1/4 Au, 3/9 Au, 3/10 Ni (↑ Cu, Ni)


    Tin Ore:
    - UMac Route: 2 Sn, 1/10 Fe, 2/9 Fe, 2/9 Zn, 2/10 Zn (↑ Fe)
    - IndG Route: 2 Sn, 1/4 Fe, 1/4 Zn, 2/9 Zn, 2/10 Zn
    - IndG Route: 2 Sn, 1/4 Fe, 1 Zn, 2/9 Zn, 2/10 Zn (↑ Zn)


    Apatite Ore:
    - UMac Route: 8 Apatite Dust, 2/10 Phosphorus Dust, 2/9 Phosphorus Dust, 2/9 Phosphorus Dust, 2/10 Phosphorus Dust
    - IndG Route: 2 Apatite, 24/4 Apatite Dust, 4/4 Phosphorus Dust (↑ Apatite, Apatite Dust, Phosphorus Dust)


    Certus Quartz Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 2.5 Certus Quartz, 2 Certus Quartz Dust (↑ Certus Quartz, Certus Quartz Dust)
    - UMac Route: 2 Certus Quartz Dust, 1/10 Quartzite Dust, 2/9 Quartzite Dust, 2/9 Quartzite Dust, 2/10 Quartzite Dust (↑ Quartzite Dust)
    - IndG Route: 1 Certus Quartz, 6/4 Certus Quartz Dust, 2/4 Quartzite Dust


    Sulfur Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 5.5 Sulfur
    - UMac Route: 8 Sulfur, 1/10 Sulfur, 2/9 Sulfur, 2/9 Sulfur, 2/10 Sulfur
    - IndG Route: 8 Sulfur, 2/4 Sulfur, 2/9 Sulfur, 2/10 Sulfur (↑ Sulfur)


    Saltpeter Ore:
    - Fortune Route: 3.5 Saltpeter
    - UMac Route: 8 Saltpeter, 1/10 Saltpeter, 2/9 Saltpeter, 2/9 Saltpeter, 2/10 Saltpeter
    - IndG Route: 8 Saltpeter, 2/4 Saltpeter, 2/9 Saltpeter, 2/10 Saltpeter (↑ Saltpeter)


    Uranium Processing (No Thermal Centrifuge):
    - UMac -> UMac -> Industrial Centrifuge: 1/10 Pu, 2/10 Pu, 2/9 Pu, 2 U238
    - Expected Plutonium Output of this process, after breeding: 0.559259 (↑ Pu)
    - Plutonium Output of IndG -> TCent Route, after breeding: 0.533951


    Centrifuged Ore UMac Byproduct:
    All this information is technically in the previous posts, but consolidated here for ease of reading. All numbers apply to a single item of centrifuged ore. Ores not listed (Coal/Redstone/Galena/Uranium etc.) either cannot be smelted or don't have a centrifuged form. UMac route always is 1/10 of the byproduct, smelting always is 1/9 of the main product. This means if the byproducts is the same as the main ore, always smelt, and if it isn't, decide whether you want the main metal or the byproduct more.


    • Copper: Ni
    • Tin: Zn
    • Tetrahedrite: Zn
    • Cassiterite: Sn
    • Iron: Sn
    • Nickel: Fe
    • Gold: Ni
    • Iridium: Os
    • Pyrite: 10/9 iron when smelted, 1/3 iron after UMac. Never UMac this.
    • Sphalerite: 10/9 zinc when smelted, but yields Cadmium via UMac. This is currently the only way to get Cadmium in the game.
    • Sheldonite: 10/9 platinum when smelted, but yields 1/10 Iridium via UMac and produces cooperite dust equivalent to 1/6 Pd, 1/2 Pt, 1/6 S, and 1/6 Ni.
    • Official Post

    Like the new layout much more than the old one :)

    145 Mods isn't too many. 9 types of copper and 8 types of tin aren't too many. 3 types of coffee though?

    I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am not sure you realise that what you read was not what I meant.


    ---- Minecraft Crash Report ----
    // I just don't know what went wrong :(


    I see this too much.

    Quote from Physicist

    You didn't mention U-235 in the Uranium Processing, only Pu and U-238.


    The nonstandard method of processing does not produce Purified Uranium, only GT Uranium which is equivalent to U238. You pretty much lose all the EU in favor of getting Plutonium faster (You get more Pu total if you do it the standard way, since you can UUM Uranium Ore).