LV, MV, HV should be renamed.

1st Official Post

    Since EU-P is removed in IC2E, the terms 'LV', 'MV', 'HV', etc is somewhat confusing because EU-P represents voltage.



    They should be renamed to 'LP', 'MP', 'HP', etc because EU/t represents power.

    I am both particle and wave.

    LV etc. is good name. Cause its Voltage, which I guess means "how much power flow in "that" and can be handled." :)


    And also, there Voltage ittself figure if youre using uncovered cabled or tesla coils :DDDD

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    Quote from CastielAngelow


    LV etc. is good name. Cause its Voltage, which I guess means "how much power flow in "that" and can be handled." :)


    EU-P, which represents voltage, is removed from IC2 since IC2E.


    Power = Voltage × Current


    (Watt = Volt × Ampere, EU/t = EU-P × ???)


    Energy = Power × Time


    (Joules = Watt × second, EU = EU/t × tick)

    I am both particle and wave.


    To repeat what has been pointed out earlier, nothing in IC2 has any correlation or equivalent in real-world electricity, because of the weird (and confusing to newcomers) way it has always worked. Nor does voltage in IC2 work the way as voltage in real life. If you want fairly similar voltage simulations, try out RedPower (anybody still remember) or Universal Electricity.


    If you want to put relationships between IC2 EU and real-life electricity, you're only confusing yourself.

    Quote from Epic Lulz


    You can't insert a tiny lightbulb into a 220V power supply. The similar went to EU-P as well - You could't connect a macerator directly into a MFE. (a 32EU-P machine couldn't be connected into a 128EU-P power supply.) (In IC2E, you can't a macerator directly into a MFE because a 32EU/t machine can't be connected into a 512EU/t power supply.)


    Neither the laws 'Voltage × Current = Power' nor 'Voltage ÷ Current = Resistance' have meaning in IC2, however.

    Quote from NDospark320


    You can't insert a tiny lightbulb into a 220V power supply. The similar went to EU-P as well - You could't connect a macerator directly into a MFE. (a 32EU-P machine couldn't be connected into a 128EU-P power supply.) (In IC2E, you can't a macerator directly into a MFE because a 32EU/t machine can't be connected into a 512EU/t power supply.)


    Neither the laws 'Voltage × Current = Power' nor 'Voltage ÷ Current = Resistance' have meaning in IC2, however.


    Well some things have to appear logical... Obviously you wouldn't plug a hairdryer to a nuclear power plant...


    But mostly the physics-related, not-so-obvious stuff don't have a correlation.

    Quote from NDospark320

    You can't insert a tiny lightbulb into a 220V power supply.


    But the reason for that is not voltage, it's power. Voltage alone does nothing. It's just a potential difference that governs the direction of the flow of electrons. If you don't have a flow of electrons, then it doesn't matter how large your potential difference it is. That flow of electrons has a name: current. It is defined as the amount of electrical charge (given in coulomb) traveling across a certain cross-section of material, and is given in ampere.


    When you connect a tiny lightbulb to a 220V outlet, the lightbulb fries because the large potential difference of 220V brutally tears all the available current across the tiny wire and simply melts it via joule heating. However, if you only had a comparatively tiny amount of current available, the tiny lightbulb would be much better off, despite the voltage. Of course, restricting current so far that the tiny lightbulb survives that much voltage is highly impractical and error-prone, which is why we use transformers to bring the voltage down. That way we can allow more current, which as a larger and more tangible thing, can be more precisely controlled.


    In all cases what matters is never voltage, but rather the end result of voltage x current. That result is power, defined as energy (given in joule) over time, and it's given in watt.


    Voltage alone is only ever a problem if you increase it so much that common isolators start to fail to contain the potential difference - especially the most common isolator, which is air. Give enough voltage, and the current simply seeks its way across the isolator, because the "pressure" is so great that it no longer matters. You get a lightning strike, and power flowing where it is not supposed to flow - for example, grounding itself through your body. I do not recommend to try this at home, and not at work either.

    Wattage is actually a real English word. However, it's more something of a layman's term. NDospark320 is right in that the proper term used in engineering is power.

    • Official Post

    Most people say Amps as well, but the full term is Amperrage and should be used in most circumstances, same for wattage > Power. Power could be anything: Force, Emotional power, "Magical" power, but Wattage can only be Electricity.

    Quote from SirusKing

    Most people say Amps as well, but the full term is Amperrage and should be used in most circumstances, same for wattage > Power. Power could be anything: Force, Emotional power, "Magical" power, but Wattage can only be Electricity.


    How about electrical current and electrical power for Amps and Watts respectively?