[Suggestionquestion] Spout?

zaery · Mar 14th 2012

I'll admit that I'm a noob in this department, but anyway:

As far as I can tell, making IC2 a Spout plugin would be perfect. Spout can have custom blocks with custom properties, that are automagically downloaded to the client. The best example I can find of it is MoreMaterials, which lets every server admin create their own blocks. http://forums.spout.org/thread…ems-spn-737-cb-1-1-r4.70/

Anyway, just a humble suggestion from someone who doesn't really know what he's talking about :P, Just something to consider.

FenixR · Mar 14th 2012

This is also from someone who doesnt know what hes talking about, but isnt spout doomed already? Since Mojang decided to ally itself with the Bukkit team...

(Afaik Spout its some modding kit for multiplayer minecraft like bukkit isnt it?)

Snoochy · Mar 14th 2012

e.g. use bukkit? go go

passinglurker · Mar 14th 2012

spout is opensource some one else can pick it up but its bus factor(number of devs that can be hit by a bus before the project dies) probably isn't very strong at the moment

zaery · Mar 14th 2012

Spout is alive and well. They've almost got a working server that is completely seperate from bukkit. It's bukkit that just had it's main force hired away.

FenixR · Mar 14th 2012

And then, soon bukkit will be the main kit in which multiplayer mods will base themselves, aka official minecraft API. (Once again speaking from my little knowledge about the issue)

zaery · Mar 14th 2012

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And then, soon bukkit will be the main kit in which multiplayer mods will base themselves, aka official minecraft API. (Once again speaking from my little knowledge about the issue)

No, quite the opposite. Due to licensing, Mojang isn't legally allowed to use anything from the bukkit project. They will start completely from scratch. Spout does a ton of things that Bukkit never even dreamed of doing. It will take quite a lot of time for the official API to get close to what Bukkit did, and even longer until it could get to be as awesome as spout.

passinglurker · Mar 14th 2012

he has a point open source licenses typically say something like "stuff directly descended from or related to must also be under an opensource licence" so the mod api the bukkit team is working on is most definitively not going to be bukkit.

zaery · Mar 14th 2012

Quote from passinglurker

he has a point open source licenses typically say something like "stuff directly descended from or related to must also be under an opensource licence" so the mod api the bukkit team is working on is most definitively not going to be bukkit.

It's not a case of "most definitively", "typically", or "99.999% chance" or whatnot, the bukkit team has said themselves "Everything will be rewritten", http://forums.bukkit.org/threa…62489/page-10#post-990253

passinglurker · Mar 14th 2012

IMEL(in my english language) most definitively means 110%

FenixR · Mar 14th 2012

Then again mojang hired the bukkit team most likely to help them develop something SIMILAR like bukkit to work as the official mod api for multiplayer mods. Since they are doing something similar and entirely new, they wont be bound by the open source license bukkit has.

Otherwise i dont know wtf mojang hired the bukkit team in the first place.

raa1337 · Mar 15th 2012

So you want the IC2 devs to totally recode their mod to accommodate for this?

I can see someone going 'Hey, I know spout better then my own bedroom, can I make a 'port'?'-

But I highly doubt Al, etc, would do it. Dunno if they'd allow it either.

passinglurker · Mar 15th 2012

*taken from the mcforums ic2 thread
it seems some one is already working on it
http://www.minecraftforum.net/…ew__findpost__p__12759996

FenixR · Mar 15th 2012

Makes me wonder if IC2 team its actually aware of that port.

raa1337 · Mar 15th 2012

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Makes me wonder if IC2 team its actually aware of that port.

~~Seems abandoned, though.~~

I do not like their forums. It might be a good idea to bring this to Al's attention. (Or, just keep talking gibberish until he slaps us and notices it.)

FenixR · Mar 15th 2012

Quote from raa1337

~~Seems abandoned, though.~~

I do not like their forums. It might be a good idea to bring this to Al's attention. (Or, just keep talking gibberish until he slaps us and notices it.)

Already sent a pm to al. Better safe than sorry.

zaery · Mar 15th 2012

Quote from passinglurker

IMEL(in my english language) most definitively means 110%

Fair enough, English is special like that

zaery · Mar 15th 2012

Quote from raa1337

So you want the IC2 devs to totally recode their mod to accommodate for this?

I openly admit that I don't know much about the differences between spout plugin coding and mcloader/forge coding, I just wanted to know if it's a possibility that's being looked at, rather than just being speculated by onlookers.

PS: Yes, i would like the IC2 devs to make a spout plugin for IC2, but I have no clue if it's feasible to ask them to do so.

edit: derp spelling, I'm going to sleep before i make it worse.

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