question about ic2 teleporter science

1st Official Post

    ok so what kind of teleporter is the ic2 teleporter
    1. scan-kill-reconstruct elsewhere?
    2. take apart-move the atoms-put them back together?
    3. worm holes and portals?
    4. or some thing really weird like probability drive or swapping universes with a steve at your destination?

    true balance is impossible in video games the best one can hope for is to make it really hard to guess which of 2 choices are better.
    and remember kids "NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF JOKES!"

    I would say number 2.


    With a portal you can actually see your destination prior to entering.
    With the Scan-Kill-Reconstruct you need to have the same materials (Atoms particules etc) that made steve in your destination so it could remake him.
    and the 4 one sounds kinda stupid.

    Quote from FenixR

    With a portal you can actually see your destination prior to entering.

    Stargates are pretty much portals (except they do the whole de-reconstruct thing as well), but you can't see through them... JS.
    Well, based on a guess, I'd have to agree with the above. In my opinion, it's one of the cheapest options, in terms of materials/energy costs, and the most sensible in not being technically murder or suicide to use one...

    Quote from JaffaKree

    Stargates are pretty much portals (except they do the whole de-reconstruct thing as well), but you can't see through them... JS.
    Well, based on a guess, I'd have to agree with the above. In my opinion, it's one of the cheapest options, in terms of materials/energy costs, and the most sensible in not being technically murder or suicide to use one...


    You will see the physical manifestation of the portal/worm hole though.

    so if some one got a teleport pad to de-materialize someone and send the atoms off with out a destination what would logically happen?
    1. boom?
    2. it rains uumatter and diamonds?
    3. the atoms zip back to the transmitting pad cause its the only one they can find?
    4. the matter converts to raw energy turning the teleport pad into a generator?
    5. atoms collect and re-materialize in odd places?
    6. atoms just dissipate and over time meld with their environment?

    true balance is impossible in video games the best one can hope for is to make it really hard to guess which of 2 choices are better.
    and remember kids "NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF JOKES!"

    for number 3 the receiving pad doesn't need to be powered by mfe or mfsu so do the reassembling atoms power the pad? or is it some sort of trick of extra dimensional geometry or what not where the atoms know a pad when they see one and know how to put themselves back together?

    true balance is impossible in video games the best one can hope for is to make it really hard to guess which of 2 choices are better.
    and remember kids "NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF JOKES!"

    Quote from passinglurker

    for number 3 the receiving pad doesn't need to be powered by mfe or mfsu so do the reassembling atoms power the pad? or is it some sort of trick of extra dimensional geometry or what not where the atoms know a pad when they see one and know how to put themselves back together?


    None of those, if there is no energy it goes straight to 6.

    so for number 6 is it possible to saturate an area with free floating atoms and if so what happens?
    1. death by suffocation to all life?
    2. boom?
    3. random clusters of atoms materialize (like dirt and scrap type stuff)?
    4. fog/dust/goo?
    5. it rains uumatter and diamonds?
    6. Creeper-Apocalypse?
    7. endermen, ender dragons, or end portals show up?
    8. random clusters of atoms materialize (like the stuff you've been de-materializing type stuff)?
    9. don't know but I think I can make a generator run off this?
    10. atoms just get pushed further and further out with no risk of reactions or explosions
    11. increased chance for stormy weather

    true balance is impossible in video games the best one can hope for is to make it really hard to guess which of 2 choices are better.
    and remember kids "NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF JOKES!"

    true it would make sense unless the matter was confined there is to much space available for the free floating matter alter its environment. i would just like to pause say thanks for helping be test the suspension of disbelief fenrix (unpause). so whats stopping this from turning into a creeper vaporizing gun or hammer? what if the free floating atoms were contained? I've said before that teleporters are some of the most (for lack of a better word) under-exploited scifi technologies so i'm curious to see what people believe can bee done with them beside moving from point a to point b

    true balance is impossible in video games the best one can hope for is to make it really hard to guess which of 2 choices are better.
    and remember kids "NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF JOKES!"

    Quote from FenixR

    Under-Exploited? Teleports are pretty straight foward, a machine that moves a person or object from Point A to Point B, anything that doesnt fit that quality its NOT a teleporter.

    you rarely see the tech and science that makes that possible used elsewhere. if teleporters are possible what else is as a result?

    true balance is impossible in video games the best one can hope for is to make it really hard to guess which of 2 choices are better.
    and remember kids "NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF JOKES!"

    Quote from passinglurker

    you rarely see the tech and science that makes that possible used elsewhere. if teleporters are possible what else is as a result?


    Im not saying teleporters have no warfare use, im saying that teleporters ONLY moves a person/object from point a to point b. That Object may very well be a Nuke into a Nuke resistant bunker, or a bullet or whatever.


    If you talk about only desintegrating the target without moving it elsewhere, then thats a totally diferent thing. (Related or not to the teleporter, but its not a teleporter.)

    Quote from FenixR

    Im not saying teleporters have no warfare use, im saying that teleporters ONLY moves a person/object from point a to point b. That Object may very well be a Nuke into a Nuke resistant bunker, or a bullet or whatever.


    If you talk about only desintegrating the target without moving it elsewhere, then thats a totally diferent thing. (Related or not to the teleporter, but its not a teleporter.)

    and with a knowledge of what teleporters do to move you in mind what cool new things can be done? like an anti creeper ban hammer? or a turn sheep into pigs machine? sure by definition teleporters only move things but with teleporter technology you can molecularity take things apart shake them them around and put the back together differently there is so much more that could be done with that than just go from point a to point b

    true balance is impossible in video games the best one can hope for is to make it really hard to guess which of 2 choices are better.
    and remember kids "NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF JOKES!"

    Because, ONCE AGAIN, if you do ANYTHING besides going from Point A to Point B, you dont have a teleporter Anymore, you have something else.


    Quote

    Teleportation is a term that refers to a number of theories and notions concerning the transfer of matter from one point to another without traversing the physical space between them, similar to the concept apport, an earlier word used in the context of spiritualism


    Thats a Teleporter, Just That.

    Quote from FenixR

    Because, ONCE AGAIN, if you do ANYTHING besides going from Point A to Point B, you dont have a teleporter Anymore, you have something else.



    Thats a Teleporter, Just That.

    Fenix has you there.

    • Official Post

    To the make Teleporter into Generatorpart: Thats not possible because you lose the double of the Energy you get back.


    What you are thinking about is an Antimatterchainreactor, just fill any Matter in and you get ridiculous amounts of Energy. It creates its own Antimatter from half the Energy you produce from the Matter and the other Half of the Energy is outputted immidiately until all the Matter/Antimatter (except a few Stored Antimatteratoms for later uses) is converted to Energy at a 1:1-ratio. Hmm, sounds a bit like EE.


    And why it should rain Diamonds? (UUM is a bit understandable)

    Quote from GregoriusT

    To the make Teleporter into Generatorpart: Thats not possible because you lose the double of the Energy you get back.


    What you are thinking about is an Antimatterchainreactor, just fill any Matter in and you get ridiculous amounts of Energy. It creates its own Antimatter from half the Energy you produce from the Matter and the other Half of the Energy is outputted immidiately until all the Matter/Antimatter (except a few Stored Antimatteratoms for later uses) is converted to Energy at a 1:1-ratio. Hmm, sounds a bit like EE.


    And why it should rain Diamonds? (UUM is a bit understandable)

    this wasn't a suggestion this was an inquiry into how people believed teleporters work in industrial craft so how do you think they work?

    true balance is impossible in video games the best one can hope for is to make it really hard to guess which of 2 choices are better.
    and remember kids "NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF JOKES!"

    • Official Post
    Quote from passinglurker

    ok so what kind of teleporter is the ic2 teleporter
    1. scan-kill-reconstruct elsewhere?
    2. take apart-move the atoms-put them back together?
    3. worm holes and portals?
    4. or some thing really weird like probability drive or swapping universes with a steve at your destination?

    1. that's beaming (not Teleporting)
    2. that's a kind of teleporting that i would choose for the IC²-Teleportingsystem
    3. Per definition not Teleporting
    4. Maybe in Futurama but not in IC²


    And why doesnt the Teleporter need any Enderpearls in its Craftingrecipe? I mean, a Minecraftscientist would first try to copy the Endermenteleportability, before doing something like that.