Posts by Epic Lulz

You need to place iron in a blast furnace along with 6 compressed air cells. You'll get 1 refined iron after a fairly long period of time, along with some slag. Slag can be centrifuged to coal and gold.

Blast furnace is not powered by EU directly, but by hU. You can use either Electric Heat Generator (EU, with coils supplied), Solid Heat Generator (furnace fuel), Fluid Heat Generator (biogas, BC fuel, creosote oil, etc.), or Electric Heat Exchanger (lava or hot nuclear coolant) to generate hU. Make sure the copper square on the heat generator of your choice and the copper square on the blast furnace are facing each other.

Note that the tech level of refined iron is higher than what it was in classic IC2. Refined iron now is equivalent to steel, back then it was the same level as normal iron.

I'm using four 100 hU/t electric heat generators (EHGs) attached to the steam generator here.

For some reason, when I turn up the mb/t throughput at the bottom, the EHGs stop generating hU/t even though they are being powered by debug tools each.

Is this intended or a bug? Using build #590 here.
If it is intended, how can I work around it?

EDIT: So by reading around it seems that it is intended... right?

Quote from MrModderWoodof

Why immibis is the only guy then wanna update old IC2?I don't see any good thing in IC2 EXP...
SirusKing said than the NanoSaber it's a luminous stick.. and then he made a new cool texture,but only i see it's a pirate sword than nobody use.And new recipes..men,you now need a bunch of iron for make a simple thing,and please don't talk to me about the recipe for the drills...this needs motors,for motors you needs a bunch of items,those items need cables,for cable you need a hammer(yes,a hammer for make cables,good one guys )this hammer give you a plate,with this plate you needs scissors.
Old the work of Alblaka has been destroy by GregTech...sorry,i said IC2.But please,all we know than if IC2 EXP continues like that..it will be a bad copy of Gregtech.

So the new heat and kinetic energy, reactor mechanics and tech tree expansion (the new refined iron, improved ore processing etc.) are irrelevant?

IC2 is not meant to be any mod where you can reach the end of the tech tree after 30 minutes. IC2 experimental was never meant to compete/be compared with with classic IC2 anyway. It was meant as a more balanced (to the dev team's POV of course, not saying that all of reddit should share this) replacement of IC2 with more appropriate costs and mechanics. Neither is IC2 experimental intended to compete with any other industrial mods out there. Just because every other tech mod gates ore multiplication at 8 cobble (as an example) doesn't mean that IC2 has to gate it at 8 cobble.

In my opinion you are being granted the ability to do things beyond vanilla Minecraft's tech tree, after all. Where do you get babysitting free furnaces in vanilla Minecraft? Where do you get indefinitely unbreaking pickaxes in vanilla Minecraft? Where do you get ore doubling in vanilla Minecraft? Where do you get near complete invincibility in vanilla Minecraft?

Quote from Mine_Sasha

SpwnX Ooh, I understand now, ok. so we need to remove the excess of carbon
Chocohead I know Greg added it in GT5 but I want it in IC2
@EpicLulz IC2 refined iron is registred as steel in the oreDict. so yeah.

Steel is iron after refining, after all.

You can assume that refined iron in IC2 is a special, atypical kind of steel.

Quote from Mine_Sasha

@Thunderdark But I thought steel was an iron and carbon alloy, and from what I remember the old GregTech also required coal dust for making steel in his E Blast-Furnace, that's why I thought adding a coal slot would be better .

You are right for the fact that we need air to remove CO2, but steel is still a iron and carbon alloy :b.

And also, I have an idea, can you add CarbonNanotubes/Damascus steel as a new metal for top tier machinery ?

Isn't IC2 "steel" refined iron?

Even if steel is a form of refined iron, you can assume that IC2 Blast Furnace refines iron in a different manner using Minecraftian mechanics to yield a stronger version of iron equivalent to steel.

Quote from adam27

so regular tnt cant blow through obsidian, needed for tnt cannons and player traps.

also,how do you craft coolant cells in the latest experimental ic2 release, ive tried all the recipes listed at http://wiki.industrial-craft.n…ex.php?title=Cooling_Cell but none of them work.(sorry if this should be posted in a separate thread)

Don't use the wiki, although I can't blame you as it isn't updated yet and there is no NEI support either.

Use the canning machine in fluid enrich mode, you can use either:
- 1 bucket regular water + 8 lapis dust
- 1 bucket distilled water + 1 lapis dust

Instead of axels and gearboxes, we could do hydraulics or pneumatics, though they aren't original either. They are simpler though.

Quote from il-kuliko

Thanks me!

We know you're excited, but there's no need to post so many posts in a row. Use the edit function.

Quote from mementh

as i understand and have picked up.. glass fiber's MAIN benifit was less loss over distance! period! HV cable carried more but lost alot quickly!

What i understand is All cables will loose some over distance HV Gold Copper Tin! its that the higher costing will have less resistance ( i belive he messed up on that since it makes no sense to have higher cost offer lower reward) so over a 40 block strech you might loose say 20-30 eu/tick for HV. 45-55 for Gold 70-90 for copper and 100-150 for tin.

Also as i have picked up its no longer packet based, IE you can't send a million packets of 5 and not overload anymore. Total traffic will be a consideration along with the resistance?

i feel its a good solution, and able to be worked around.

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No, it's going to change.

"Voltage" (i.e. packets) will come back. Resistance will be variable depending on the amount that is passing through the wire OR the maximum "voltage" tolerance of the wire I believe (not entirely sure on that).

Proof (albeit somewhat outdated, from November):

Quote from Player

As I stated multiple times already the energy net is nowhere near its final state and voltage isn't implemented yet. The simulation does already use the correct algorithms, but the voltage values are being ignored atm.

Machines still explode by receiving too much energy at once, but right now current == energy and currents sum up. Later on the voltage will make machines explode and higher currents just mean more throughput at the cost of higher conduction losses.

Quote from Fearless73

U just don't get it LuL. Go lul somewhere-else and stop commenting on this thread plz.

Ad hominem is not going to get you anywhere here.

See here, glass fibre cable is not meant for casual use (logically, it shouldn't even conduct electricity). There are far better alternatives, both economically and in actuality. It is pretty much intended that glass fibre is expensive to prevent people from abusing its usage like back in classic IC2. Well I do agree they may be slightly overdoing it (maybe 0.75 - 0.85 diamonds/cable would be a better compromise) but glass fibre cable is not something cheap you're meant to have after 20 minutes of playing.

Edit 2: Seriously, diamonds aren't that hard to get. Get a Fortune pickaxe (even easier in 1.8). A Fortune II pick and a medium-sized diamond ore vein (about 4 diamond ores) can net you about 7 diamonds on average. Sure, you need some bookshelves and enchanting tables, but that's late midgame vanilla, and about early midgame in IC2. Not that tall of a technological barrier.

Edit 1: So I see you're ignoring me. That's fine. I'm not going to get angry from any internet arguments. Denial isn't going to get you anywhere either.

Quote from Fearless73

Just so that what I'm saying is clear. I do not have any problem with the efficiency degradation of cables within the game.
I am only pointing out that one single cable is costing almost 1 diamond. Where as previously the use of a diamond in a recipe would yeald 6/8 pieces of Fiber cable.
I know there are some smart people here with all the equasions and so-forth. I appreciate this.

My only point is about game balance and the cost of material to make the cable.

Thanks to those that replied. (p.s.. no problem Kye))

You need it for QEV/IV energy (max 8192) transference only I think, you can just use four parallel HV cables (max 2048) transferring EV for that, there is absolutely no reason to use Glass Fibre unless they decided to buff its resistance significantly.

Quote from Fearless73

The IC2 Ex Team.

Firstly, thanks for a great mod that i've used from the very beginning.

Glass Fibre Cable used to cost a diamond per 8 pieces of GFC (if using silver as the added component). Now the recipe is 4 diamonds and 5 redstone to produce 9 energium dusts. then 2 energium dusts per piece of cable. That works out to be 9 pieces of GFC per 8 diamonds, or just under a diamond per piece)).

Now with the new kinetic Wind Gens that we have (that should be placed reasonably high up), GFC is really the only option to minamize EU loss.

Anyhow, someone maybe would like to look into a re-balance of GFC cost. 8 pieces per diamond is reasonable, I think! But, I'll leave it to you to decide.

Thanks for reading and all the work. Have a good one.

Phill.

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Cable loss, when reimplemented, will function differently from what it used to in classic IC2. Better cables will have higher resistance IIRC. Cable loss should be in decimals per block now, not 1 per x blocks. Use the appropriate wire and don't jump straight to GFC.

You aren't meant to have lossless energy transfer anyway. If you really want to do that, maybe try hopper and minecarts with batteries/crystals.

Quote from marieo10

How about buffing the nano boots, make them so you can jump over a fence. There is a potion that makes it so you can jump just high enough to get over a fence. similar to using quantaum boots but only enough for fences.

love to see nano leggings make a person walk a little faster.

biggest thing would be a fuel powered jetpack + nanochest plate.

maybe hazmat suit + fuel powered jetpack = if it takes damage, it must be repaired with rubber before it breaks.

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If that does happen, make it a mode you have to toggle, don't want to accidentally walk up fences.

Quote from mementh

Well i tested.. looks like the EU reader is currently working again!!!!

My advice is for people to update there wireing ASAP!!!

I plan on going the HV cable route with two transformers every so often to reduce the loss for my windmill design..

And my Solar panels will get a simalar change to protect them.

Explosions are not in yet.. !!! I would suggest making sure in patch notes this is said specifically that its in so people can avoid issues

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I don't think that will work, cable resistance was going to be changed to x per block instead of 1 per x blocks.

Quote from master801

BC3 actually.

Um... BC3 was during MC 1.3.2. It's BC5 and 6 (NextGen) now.

Quote from Chocohead

While I was watching Quetzi's stream, he came up with 2 ideas that he's probably forgotten and isn't going to post them here. They were:

The coils in the electric heat generator getting damaged when heat is transferred
Standing in the path of windmill rotors hurting

The first one, I'm kinda half and half supporting, but the second one just makes sense. A giant metal windmill hitting you wouldn't just go straight through, it would hurt. A lot.

The chat came up with a suggestion too, that IC2 should have an in game book similar to OpenBlocks or Factorisation.
Doing this would clear up many things such as people asking how does the blast furnace work or how do I make coolant. I also think this would be the best way of collecting all the new experimental IC2 info, rather than having it spread across wiki's, forums and reedit.
A book IMO would be better than Extra Utilities' NEI info, as it doesn't have direct links to other pages, while Factorization's manual for example, is well linked in itself and even has 3D models of multi-block builds.

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The 2nd one seems pretty cool, although output should be decreased (since you are breaking the momentum) or it could be easily exploitable as a mob farm.

It would be pretty cool but pretty OP to see an Enderman farm in the End where the Endermen are being cut down by windmills generating energy at the same time.

Quote from gongalito

Hi!
I need to get irdium, so i need UU matter. I have craft the mass fabricator but i do not know how to use it. I dont know if i have to find UU matter in form of liquid and take it with a cell or something, but i have use the creative and the UU matter in cells does not work.
I am spanish so i am sorry about my english

Use a Scanner to scan iridium ore (found in dungeons, villages, mineshafts, etc.) and then place the data in the Replicator to create UU.

Quote from Backdraft

This is the Futuristic one, not Classic :p Fonts were experimental and will be either removed or tweaked for the next iteration, because it ended up being not that great for extensive chat reading.
Between 1.7 and 1.8, the only thing that I need to change is the enchant table iirc, will do that once I finished PFM 1.1

Oh oops

Quote from inucune

i'm more creeped out by what you have done to your GUI...

That's the resource pack, Pyrolusite's Classic Minimalism from the link in his signature.

It's available for 1.7.2 and 1.7.10, but unfortunately not the 1.8 snapshots though.

Quote from Mycose

Hi guys,

First this mod is really awesome and some features are just epic !
Today i was planning on starting a nuclear reactor but big issue
The recipes are totally different from what i saw on videos and the wiki doesn't seem right either
for example this doesn't work:
+

It's supposed to give me a uranium cell but it doesn't ...
So i'm blocked with my uranium ingot since i can't do anything with them (expect changing them into uranium 238 but the uranium 238 can't do nothing either...)
For unlock me i need "tiny pile of uranium" but i still have a lot of uranium ingot and uranium 238 unusable :s


Anyway does i miss something i didn't saw ?


Thanks for your help !
EDIT: Also i wanted to try plutonium fuel rod but there is no way to craft plutonium...

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Get NEI to check for recipes.

Although, as mementh said, the reactor system is changing, so you may want to hold off on it.