Posts by psusi

GregoriusT wrote:

Because I did not add advanced Burning Boxes for Liquids and Gasses yet, that is why. And they are planned, so that is why I "ignore" your complaints simply because something else I plan will fix that particular issue later. And I know people who still use Solid Fuels for Stuff so that argument of yours is not fully valid either.

And they can use/produce 50 units of solid fuel per minute?

Dekker wrote:

Even in present mankind still using solid fuel for genereting energy => coal powerplant, or produce heat in some houses. So this tech isnt obsolete

So? I'm talking in game, not real life. In game, fluid fuels offer many advantages over solid so there is very good reason to switch to using them as soon as you can. And once you start refining oil, you find yourself in possession of large amounts of them.

GregoriusT wrote:

You mean like generating Power? yeah you can use them, why wouldn't you be able to?

I feel like you have only been reading a small part of what I've been saying, replying to that, and ignoring the rest. It seems to me that the sheer amount of solid fuel needed to keep several of these things going to generate enough heat to run the second tier large boiler is simply unrealistic. Also why should you go back to trying to mass produce insane amounts of solid fuel long after you have abandoned it in favor of liquid and gas? I mean oil is what you are supposed to fuel things with late game aren't you? So why does the big badass end game dynamo seemingly now require you to go back to mass producing charcoal?

GregoriusT wrote:

You are aware that the Multifarms use Forestry Fertilizer and that there is a lot of Recipes for said Fertilizer that dont involve Apatite?

Yes, but that is totally besides the point. Is it actually even possible to use these things for their intended purpose?

GregoriusT wrote:

You forget Peat, also regular Coal and Stuff. The thing only works on specific Fuels, not "any and all Solid Fuels". And you cannot automate it before you get Tungsten.

You mean forestry peat? Is that much easier to produce with multifarms ( which I don't really like since they started using apaite as fuel instead of compost ) than wood/charcoal? I guess you don't have to coke it. I normally manually farm peat in the early game half as a fuel source and half as a way to turn useless sand into dirt to sift for some brown clay. I'm estimating that running the large boiler with these fluidized bed burners is going to eat like 40-50 charcoal per minute. Was peat 20% or 100% more energy than charcoal? I think it was only 20%, so that's still a crazy amount of peat. How much can a multifarm produce? Why only this super burning box for solid fuel, which is normally abandoned for liquid and gas by mid game?

Huh? So you made a burning box that is *vastly* ( possibly game breakingly ) more efficient and higher output but only can burn solid fuel? Who the hell is still using solid fuel late in the game? How many coke ovens would you need to be feeding from a forestry tree farm ( or 3 ) to keep up with the amount of charcoal you would need to burn in this thing to run a second tier large boiler? Why not just make a large burning box for the large boiler?

DragDen wrote:

There are branch-cutters that greatly increase the chance of getting drop from leaves. You can get 10+ saplings from one tree with them

Yea, that's what I ended up doing and grew a few but didn't get any resin holes out of them. Also the darn branch cutters seem to wear out very quickly. I think it used up like 1/3 of its durability ( bronze ) cutting the leaves of just one tree. It feels like these need a little boost like the tongs got.

GregoriusT wrote:

You need to pray to RNGesus more often I guess. Newly planted ones will randomly have Resin Holes just like Wild ones will randomly have Resin Holes.

They have a Sapling Chance that is so low that it averages on 1 sapling drop per Tree, ofcourse averaging means 0 and 2 can happen just like 5 could happen.

Also you are NOT allowed to shear leaves off the Trees, because then the Resin Holes will stop working entirely, even if you plaster the Leaves back onto the Tree.

So it's just bad luck so far? OK. I only sheared the wild one I found that didn't already have a resin hole, and I chopped down another one or two that didn't and got no sapplings.

What's the deal with GT rubber trees? The wild ones I found had a resin hole I could manually harvest from, but they don't seem to drop sappings naturally so I made a shears to cut the leaves and get sapplings and have grown 3 more near my base, and none of them have resin holes.

GregoriusT wrote:

Like IRL Rubber Trees, the Drilling is for Maple Trees

That doesn't tell me anything. I just saw Bear grab the sticky stuff from a sap bag, so what? Is it optional? Either you can harvest with hand or the sap bag will auto harvest?

Hey, what's the deal with GT rubber trees? I thought the idea was that instead of using a tree tap to collect rubber from spots on the tree, you were supposed to drill into the tree and attach a sap bag that would slowly collect rubber? But it looks like the GT rubber trees have a resin hole like IC2 ones, only you just use your hands to collect the rubber.

laurynasl wrote:

When playing with finite water (disabled drains), sulfuric acid + sugar gives much needed water.

Wait, you disabled drains? So no infinite water from a river or ocean biome? Not even from rain? Man, that's crazy.

Why would anyone want to use sulfuric acid + sugar to make carbon? At first I thought that it would be easier to get to than using an electrolyzer since making a dynamo and electrolyzer require a stainless steel bathing pot to galvanize the steel, and bronze mixers used to only take bronze to make iirc, but it seems they now also require stainless steel plates. It seems easier to make a stainless steel bathing pot then dynamo and electrolyzer than to make 3 bronze mixers to make the acid, a roaster to get the sulfur dioxide, and the squeezer and dryer to refine the sugar. And after getting it set up, it is easier to feed the electrolyzer some charcoal than to farm tons of reeds.

GregoriusT wrote:

No better way afaik, Black Sand + Centrifuge seems like easy enough to pull off.

Easy yes, but volume is low given that you need 9 VPO to get one vanadium, and you only have a 10% chance of getting one from black sand, which itself isn't as common as magnetite used to be.

Also this sucks: you now require a T2 buzzsaw to cut a diamond into diamond plates, which requires aluminum which these days means you can't go that route before you are well into the electrical age, so you pretty much have to find a flawless or better diamond to make your first shredder.

Hey, where do you get vanadium since magnetite veins were removed? It looks like you can centrifuge a tiny amount via vanadium pentaoxide out of black sand, but there has to be a better way?

psusi wrote:

Ohh, yea... the C2 seems to now be gone from the dark ashes as well.

Ahh, yea, it seems to just be the coal dust that still says it is C2 and charcoal says that it is C. Which is odd, because if it is C, then you should be able to use it to make steel or purify it into plain carbon.

GregoriusT wrote:

Dark Ashes dont have it either that's why I dont get why you say Dark Ashes have that Tooltip at all.

Ohh, yea... the C2 seems to now be gone from the dark ashes as well.

GregoriusT wrote:

Oh the Ashes Tooltip needs to be fixed I guess. Yeah no more Carbon from Ashes anymore. Also I just checked, Ashes dont have the Carbon Tooltip anymore since ages, so where do you get that from?

*Dark* ashes. The normal ashes I get nerfing; that made getting carbon way too easy. But dark ashes say they are C2 chemically, and you can use them to reduce iron... yet centrifuging them just gives normal, useless ashes.

I've been trying to figure out how to get to proper carbon/steel production since that nerf and was leaning towards making an LV dynamo and electrolyzer, and using the tiny amounts of graphite I've found to make the steel needed for that, but then it has to be galvanized, and that requires a stainless steel bathing pot, so I think that's out. So I guess it's keep making bronze until I can build 3 mixers to make sulfuric acid from the roasting oven I will use my small amount of graphite to produce the steel for, and go the sugar+acid route.

Why do dark ashes centrifuge into two piles of normal ashes rather than carbon? I get not having a renewable way ( charcoal or sugar ) to make carbon without some investment ( and it appears the easier way is sugar since it doesn't strictly require stainless steel the way the electrolyzer does ), and I get not being able to directly use dark ashes to make steel, but why not being able to centrifuge some carbon out of dark ashes? Especially since the tooltip says it is C2.

GregoriusT wrote:

Oh the Youtube thing is the most recent addition to the whole ordeal, before Youtube entered the fray about a month ago this was really threatening everyone, go back to the older Blog Posts to see how bad it has become.

Argh... no.. I'm talking about the "letter to MEPs from big film industry associations and sports leagues" that the article leads off with. The rights holder's say they don't like this because it somehow gives youtube et al more protection than they have now, and forces the rights holders to have to pay attention and notice when their works make it past content-id. I can't make any sense out of that.

GregoriusT wrote:

Oh it is worse, even a single missed copyright breach would cost them tons of money, imagine that for the millions of uploads a day that Youtube has, because Content ID doesn't work THAT well and also often fails at Fair Use. Even worse is that not just Youtube but EVERY SINGLE SOCIAL MEDIA SITE including small things like personal Forums like this one, would have to implement that and would still get fines to pay if copyrighted content got leaked to a European Country by their Users or even Spammers.

To make it short, the entire Free Speech Part of the Internet would basically be deleted WORLDWIDE if that Law comes to be, or Websites just start to Geoblock Europe as a whole, which HOWEVER was illegalized a few weeks ago (unsure if that Anti-Geoblocking only counts for Online Shops though).

P.S. Its about 2 Months left before it happens, if it is not stopped.

I read the actual text of the letter from the trade association linked to from that article and they appear to be arguing the opposite; they claim that this would give youtube more protection than it has now, and that is why they are against it. This confused me because they seem to be saying that right now, youtube is financially responsible for infringing content, but if this is enacted, they won't be as long as they try to avoid it with content-id, and take it down when notified.