Posts by Speiger

    First of all things IC2 Team. I like your work and what you do. Thats for sure.
    But you do leave versions unfinished. If you plan big things than finish it on every version that have these things or make it as a subversion so people can choose what they want and do not force the people to accept it.
    I played with IC2 classic now a little bit. It does not have every feature that IC2 Exp has. But every feature that was implemented is working. Maybe buggy but it works.
    And there is your version (do not think that i hate it but i do not like that you guys do not finish a version). First Explosions off (ok is ok because you override the energy system) that could be solved better. Simply have both systems next to each other and be with a config enabled and dissabled.
    Second thing: Energy Measurement is almost = 0. Without powerconverter mods almost impossible to detect if energy flows. And also not detectable by EU reader and cable.
    Third: Extreme Energy Loss and No Powerloss: First the no powerloss. The EnergySystem in 1.6.4 is having now powerloss and you can run as much power as you want through a cable and it would not even nodest that. (<.<). Now Extreme Powerloss. If you send 512 EU through a cable to a machine that require only 10 EU you lose the rest of the Energy because the machines can not send more than that amount of energy. You require everywhere a powerconverter, even if the the machine has the same powerlevel.
    I nodest that with machines that said you need only 10k EU and it took for real 1Million EU. WTF?
    I accept much things. I played a long time with the new version and enjoy the new features. But guys do not leave a unfinished project there. I do not want to expand this even more because its making me angry and sad.


    And after trying hacking IC2 with a submod (yeah i tried that) which sadly failed because i could not shutdown the original code without asm (i am not able to use asm at the moment), i asked immibis for the IC2 classic code. After a short explaining why he could not give it to me i took the source by myself by decompiling the source. (And as long i keep the source private it should be fine). I started to update the sourcecode to the IC2 Exp API in 1.6.4 (i am not done yet but i am half way there).


    A useless note but i want to tell it: i would only support the 1.6.4 version of mc.


    Now the Question to the IC2 Team:


    I know that i have no rights to release the source as long you guys give it to me.
    But would you guys give me the rights to make the IC2 Classic version that is compatible to the IC2 Exp API if it is finish public?


    Anyway thanks for reading. Speiger.


    Edit: Addons that uses more than the API would maybe not compatible to this mod anyways. And this problem i can not fix.

    Just an quick report of what i did.


    Fixed Decompiling bugs. And cleaned up the source
    Updated the Crops to the EXP API.
    Updated the Reactor to the EXP API.
    Started to update the Recipes to the API. Whitelist on the Recyclers do no longer work (it exsisted anyways only in the exp version.)
    Prepaired me for the EnergyNet. Because this part is extremly tricky.


    I ask now for people that can test it later. NOTE: Send me an PM. You get testing access after that the testers will be removed so you can play the buggy version.
    I need your MC Name to make it a private version. So you guys can not share it. Also you guys will not know who got the access code.


    (Note: I post that now for testing if i fly out of the wiki or not if i request testers Also it will take a few time to make the first version ready anyways. xDD).

    For such regards you should talk to Player, the current "lead" dev.

    Yeah maybe. I will ask him when its ready. (I am not really good at those things but we will see).


    Also another thing while i was fixing stuff and things like this:
    immibis you forgot to switch the Support from LiquidContainer to FluidContainer (and other Stuff like that). At least in the 1.6.4 version. Would be nice if you fix that even not much people downloading your mod this will help at least. Keeping every version clean and not both support at once.


    Another thing (not for you immibis) i will add the Nei support back to IC2 Classic. Crafting guild i would if i would get the API for it.
    Another note: I will replace the Items from IC2 Exp with fitting ic2 classic items. so if someone uses a ic2 Exp item in the IC2 Classic version for a recipe then it will not be a unvalid recipe or crash. I do have no idea what i will implement instead of the hammer (maybe an hammer with no use only for this). We will see.

    @xBonyx i already explained why ic2 classic is allowed.


    @CubeWrench202. Another thing. yeah immibis could make the things compatible to each other. As much he wants. But the rule that makes everything compatible to each other is the MODID. And the mod who contains the id can use the addons. As long the whole people do work for the splitt (so supporting both mods at once) then it would maybe work. But then there is the Licence in the way and because the IC2 Classic version i try to create "can Replace IC2" the will be aware of giving a permission to release it.


    I do not know how much controll Alblaka has. But as the original modder of IC / IC2 he should be able to give permission to anything (as long he did not put it so that the ic2 team can denie or have more permissions then him).


    At the very least i should be able to make the mod compatible to the API.
    I am still thinking of giving Immibis a version of it because he is the creater of ic2 classic (he did the updating and co).
    Do not know how much i can expand the licence cage until it breaks. Simply i have to test that out.

    Hahahaha. First i did none change jet. I am still cleaning up the mess the compiling system made.
    Second thing you wouln't be able to play it because the safty lock would shutdown your client instantly.
    And for the beginning i say no. No beta Testers at all. I will not test IC2 GameChanges i will test IC2 API changes.
    But thanks for the help (do not find the right words sorry).


    Player if you read this, i would prefer if you allow a classic version next to the Exp Version.
    So like a hard mode of IC2. Because IC2Exp is a lot easier then IC2 1.4.7 or lower.
    And more crafting recipes do not count on harder. Its just that people have enough todo that they do not see the easieness.

    Good and bad news. I have the IC2 Classic source. Also running smoothly (still need to fix decompiling bugs) and i know that i can make most mods compatible to it (as long they only use the API and not to much inner classes). So Gregtech/(Maybe Nuclear Controll would not work with it).
    Now the bad news. As immibis said even if i get the source (not from him) i have no rights to share it so sadly it will be only in my private use. And also i make a safty code in that only a few people can play with it (private mod simply) when i get the rights from the IC2 team to release the source (only 1.6.4 someone else can update it. I will not support 1.7.10 at all. Sorry) and the mod then i will do it.


    Do not hope on that one. Because IC2 Classic from immibis is allowed because it does not support mods so it can not replace ic2 Exp.
    My ic2 Classic version (which is named IC2) is able to replace the original. And thats a thing what the IC2 Team will not let it happen.


    But i can prepair support to special mods that would normally crash with that thing. So if i get the rights when minecraft is at 5.0 or so many yell at the ic2 team that they give me the permission then i will release it.


    To the current state: I managed to get the source running (do not know how stable it is. Stable enough i would say).
    I am still backuping the stats i made and prepair to install the new API (1.6.4 of IC2 Exp) to this mod.
    I made yesterday a try to install it but forgot to make an backup of the stablest source i had. So i restarted (it was only waste of 6 hours not much).


    Also a note i will show what i did and what not in my world roundtour/modupdates to the ic2classic mod because i am showing my private work this would not go against the licence of ic2 as far as i know. If i am wrong correct me please.

    @CubeWrench202
    He can not Override RailCraft/AppliedEnergistics/Other big mods that use the IC2Exp api.
    I want to make it possible that you can use IC2 Classic as IC2 Exp. So that people do not have to choose do i want to use IC2 classic but can not combine it with other mods or do i use IC2 Exp that is unstable and uncomplete and i have to hope that everything work (i know that ic2 exp is stable enough for normal playing)


    So that you can have either IC2 Classic or IC2 Exp without having the problems of combining it.


    What i tried to build with IC2 Exp was a daytime detector. Did not work because in 1.6.4 the Energy flow detection cable does not work.
    I also wanted to build the Chicken Toaster from Redled72,
    Link: Fully automatic Chicken Farm with IC2, RedPower, Buildcraft & ComputerCraft (german, deutsch)
    That did not work either because Cables do no longer Hurt in ic2 exp and it is also planned (that is how the code looks like) this feature will be removed forever.


    I by the way support also Ic2 mods (started):
    Those are planed/working on:
    AdvGenerators(Started/Generators are finish machines missing.)
    Compact Windmills (Serverbug/RenderBug free version)(finished)
    Quantompack,(planned/Got OldSource)
    IC2&BC Crossovermod (planned)
    RocketSecience(Planned/GotOldSource)

    Hello Immibis.
    Ive seen this mod not long ago and enjoy it (Tested and played a little bit). I really enjoy IC2 Classic more than the IC2 Exp. Mostly because of the EnergyNet (Entities get hurt, Detection of PowerFlow and also the explosions and other things). Some things in IC2 Exp are really cool but it is to much unbalanced and also i really hate it that they did not finish it to the same state as IC2 was in -1.4.7 (1.4.7 or lower).
    I am personally playing MC 1.6.4 (and that will be going for a long time) and i already tried to hack IC2 exp to fix all the stupid bugs they leftover before they switched to 1.7.10. Sadly that was not possible for me because i couldn't shutdown the required things to override them.
    And then this mod came into my mind. The only things which needed to be adjusted to make everything work with the exp mods is to adjust the mod to the new API and let it still be the old IC2. (A note here is that i am coding MC mods).
    My question here is: Can i have the 1.6.4 source code of your IC2 Classic mod that i can make it to the IC2 Addons compatible?


    Thanks for reading. Speiger