[GregTech-5][1.7.10-FORGE-1355+][Unofficial but approved Port][Stable] Even GT5 Experimental is slowly getting stable.

    Hello.

    In 5.08.28 changelog the following change is listed:
    -Change large plasma gen output

    Can someone explain what exactly was changed? When searching in the commit for "plasma" I only found that
    aOptFlow was changed from 40 to 20.

    What does it mean to me as a player? Does it mean you know need 2x more turbines, since turbine will output 2x less EU/t? If that's the case it really sucks since you already needed 5 turbines for mk2 and now you're gonna need 10. For mk3 I'm not even gonna go how much pain it will be checking on all these rotors..

    Hey there,

    iam currently powering my Beyond Reality MV-Age Base with 2 Large Steel Boilers and 4 advanced Steam Turbines. I just finished setting up my auto ore processing system and now I need more power.

    I really like the principle of the large steam turbine but after a bit of testing I noticed that it BURNS through materials like nothing else.. A small titanium rotor lasted me roughly 3 hours... and with 28 titanium per rotor this wont be sustainable..

    my questin is now: is there a material you would prefer over titanium? I plan on building a normal Rotor and want to use approx. 48.000L/sec.

    My second question is: what power system do you guys use to transition into HV age? i was thinking about nuclear energy.

    Quote from Cocolumbo

    Hey there,

    iam currently powering my Beyond Reality MV-Age Base with 2 Large Steel Boilers and 4 advanced Steam Turbines. I just finished setting up my auto ore processing system and now I need more power.

    I really like the principle of the large steam turbine but after a bit of testing I noticed that it BURNS through materials like nothing else.. A small titanium rotor lasted me roughly 3 hours... and with 28 titanium per rotor this wont be sustainable..

    my questin is now: is there a material you would prefer over titanium? I plan on building a normal Rotor and want to use approx. 48.000L/sec.

    My second question is: what power system do you guys use to transition into HV age? i was thinking about nuclear energy.


    I don't find any of the large turbines viable at all without tungstensteel rotors. I design systems to make close to some multiple of 10 B/s and use multiple large turbines as necessary. Also make large battery buffers (energy and lap xtals are cheap for what they are if you can afford such things) and run the turbines until those are full then turn them off. It reduces maintenance costs and wasted fuel.

    Nuclear EU reactors cost a lot but make a huge difference when they start adding up. Thorium is a virtually endless supply of energy and if you make about 8 small ish reactors you can get upwards of 500 EU/t out of it.

    When making a water to centrifuge array I found something interesting: the rated temperature of wooden fluid pipes is higher than the temperature of hydrogen gas but they would still make a steam sound when passing it through. It also had a cool visual affect but I replaced them with copper pipes anyway since I wasn't sure if there was loss with it.

    Also for some reason two LV transformers was not enough to keep 8 LV electrolyzers happy. I guess the cable loss is bigger than 2 EU/t 4 blocks in.

    Also make regular backups... I just blew up three hours of building.

    https://imgur.com/a/PMa9W

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    When making a water to centrifuge array I found something interesting: the rated temperature of wooden fluid pipes is higher than the temperature of hydrogen gas but they would still make a steam sound when passing it through. It also had a cool visual affect but I replaced them with copper pipes anyway since I wasn't sure if there was loss with it.

    GT5u wiki (reference) mentions that wooden pipes can't transport gases. Technically they can, but some of it vents out.

    Hi everyone. I have crash of client (already tesselating) when helium gas come in certus tank. Can't
    connect to server, client crashes. I try to remove optifine and change extracell2 versions: there is no matter.
    Gt5u 5.09.02, helium gas have not texture in receipe.
    Btw, how fix certus tank dupe when right click on steel/iron tank from RailCraft?
    Is there any normal alternative of some tank? BC cann't be installed))

    Quote from Krysinski

    Hi everyone. I have crash of client (already tesselating) when helium gas come in certus tank. Can't
    connect to server, client crashes. I try to remove optifine and change extracell2 versions: there is no matter.
    Gt5u 5.09.02, helium gas have not texture in receipe.
    Btw, how fix certus tank dupe when right click on steel/iron tank from RailCraft?
    Is there any normal alternative of some tank? BC cann't be installed))


    It is a galacticraft issue.

    https://github.com/micdoodle8/Galacticraft/issues/1664

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    Uh, what's the point of the distillation tower numbers? Electrolyzing regular water gives the same outputs (and takes the same amount of time and EU) as electrolyzing distilled water, so it isn't really necessary to distill it first.


    When I glanced through NEI I thought it implied that distilled water had to be use to electrolyze into hydrogen. They're off to the side because I already did the numbers and they don't hurt anything. They're not used in the actual EU calculations.


    Also cool thing I learned today: machine controller + shutter modules can be used to control EU flow through cables. This makes turning machine arrays on and off easy.

    Idk why that link died. Fucking google.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d…dit?usp=sharing

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    Quote from willis936

    The short term solution is to not restart the server. I keep mine up for weeks at a time without issue and when it goes down it's because I'm making changes/fixes to the pack. Forgeessentials backup plugin has been working flawlessly the whole time.

    Also in case anyone is interested in D+T numbers:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d…dit?usp=sharing

    Sadly that is not an option, we have some bugs on our server that make regular restarts mandatory. I had to restart the reactor 5 times for 500 buckets of oxygen plasma...
    ..

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    Just curious:
    From where you guys get all that Chrome to the Fusion Reactor? Redstone Centrifuging?

    Well, yes. Redstone veins contain redstone and ruby ore. Ruby ore has chrome as byproduct. Use advanced miners or quarries for it. You will need a few veins, but it is the best way. Or you add a chromite veins, but that would be too easy 8)

    I started off redstone centrifuging but mining roughly 5000 ore is just unreasonable so I instead focused on making a stable energy surplus for replication.

    Mass fabricator turns EU into UUM.
    UUM turns into items in a replicator.
    To choose which item to replicate you need to scan it into a data orb using a scanner.
    UUM can be made quicker/more EU efficient when boosting a mass fab with UUAmplifier.
    UUAmplifier is made with scrap in a amplifabricator.
    Scrap is made in a recycler.

    If you want you could go nuts with ratios to keep everything fed properly but I just made a set of MV machines and let it run for about 300 hours (it's only about 40 in so far).

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    I'm saying that if you put 999 mB/s of lava into an LHE with no IC it will output 79,920 steam/s.
    If you put 1001 mB/s of lava into an LHE with no IC it will output 80,080 SHS/s.
    As I understood the wiki it should output 40,040 SHS/s in that second case


    That's exactly what I'm looking for, thanks. I'll look into that.


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    Liquid heat exchanger with 10 heat conductors takes in 100 hot coolant/s and outputs 100 Hu/something. The stirling engine takes in 100 Hu/something and outputs 50 EU/t (1000 EU/s).
    That is 1000 EU for 100 hot coolant or 10 EU per hot coolant.

    Let's say an LHE is fed 4000 hot coolant/second to produce 20000 SHS/s (half of what it produces now, what the wiki suggests is correct behavior). HP+normal Turbine with tungstensteel rotors will produce 20000 EU/s * 1.5 (for regular steam turbine) * 1.15 (efficiency) is 1725 EU/t (34500 EU/s).
    That is 34500 EU for 4000 hot coolant or 8.625 EU per hot coolant.
    As it is right now it outputs 17.25 EU per hot coolant.


    Exactly what I'm looking for. Now the question is, do we do anything about it? The LHE has other advantages: you don't need to work it in multiples of 100, it saves floor space, and its scalable.

    I take it a "Large" turbine is still better? You mentioned "Normal." Those things are ridiculous due to the efficiency bonus.

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    I know. I was suggesting ways to fix the issue of losing half of the water if the LHE was "fixed" to output half as much when in SHS mode. Another, more clean solution would be to just make the distilled water requirements half when in SHS mode.


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    Oh ok, thanks. Don't worry, I switched the code to tie water/steam ratio together a bit more tightly. If I halve one, it'll halve the other too.

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    Is there a way to make fuel ethanol in GT5u? Seems the fermenter and some water and sugar would be able to make this most important fuel.


    Distillation Tower, unless something in your pack breaks it. It may look for specific mods (Forestry?).


    Quote from AiwendilCiunio

    Hello.
    In 5.08.28 changelog the following change is listed:
    -Change large plasma gen output

    Can someone explain what exactly was changed? When searching in the commit for "plasma" I only found that
    aOptFlow was changed from 40 to 20.

    What does it mean to me as a player? Does it mean you know need 2x more turbines, since turbine will output 2x less EU/t? If that's the case it really sucks since you already needed 5 turbines for mk2 and now you're gonna need 10. For mk3 I'm not even gonna go how much pain it will be checking on all these rotors..


    If I'm reading it right, it's lowering the target threshold to achieve maximum gain to the original design.

    Since I've never done Fusion before, can you clarify why you need 5 turbines? Even with "Large" or "Huge" rotors?

    Well in my opinion the LHE +large turbines has a huge material cost and requires material upkeep and multiblock maintenance. To make sense to use it should be at least as good as the stirling engines or else I just wouldn't bother with it and would just make a srirling engine array.

    Also when I said normal I meant steam so two large turbines both using the same type of rotor.