[Sugestion] Redisign of Nano-Sabre/Chainsaw

WarChicken78 · Nov 1st 2011

Suggestion:
Redesign Nano Sabre or redesign Chainsaw.

Description
The Nano-Sabre is redundant in its current functionality, because the chainsaw can do what the sabre does and more.

Killing a hostile mob with the Nano-Sabre and the chainsaw both take two strikes. The chainsaw doesn't need to be turned on/off and also cuts down wood.
Due to that the Nano-Sabre isn't useful.
To fix this either make the Nano-Sabre a one hit killer (you still have to switch it on and off) or reduce the damage of the chainsaw, so it takes three hits to drop a hostile mob.

Recipe:
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Shadowclaimer · Nov 1st 2011

Please don't nerf my Chainsaw.. its so satisfying to kill Zombies while hearing the sound of it revving..

Just make the Nanosaber deal more damage.

Kuudere · Nov 1st 2011

Nano-saber killing in one hit isn't particularly overpowered, because you still have to monitor power usage and recharge it periodically.

If you wanted something that kills in 2 hits, the diamond sword uses a comparable amount of resources, never needs recharging and generally never needs replacement unless you're hunting mobs full-time.

If it's really a problem, I don't think doubling the nanosaber's energy usage would be uncalled for.

Adien_Alexander · Nov 1st 2011

Both the Chainsaw and Nano-saber are meant to be of Diamond Sword Strength.

The Plus side to the Chainsaw: Cuts wood quickly

The Plus side to the Nano-Saber: Heavily Damages other Player's Nano-suits).

I feel as if they fit the role they were intended to be rather well (In short: the Nano saber was implemented for PVP purposes only).

Kuudere · Nov 1st 2011

Quote from Adien_Alexander

Both the Chainsaw and Nano-saber are meant to be of Diamond Sword Strength.

The Plus side to the Chainsaw: Cuts wood quickly

The Plus side to the Nano-Saber: Heavily Damages other Player's Nano-suits).

I feel as if they fit the role they were intended to be rather well (In short: the Nano saber was implemented for PVP purposes only).

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I like it how you're stating a fact that was never documented anywhere as if it's something obvious.

Adien_Alexander · Nov 1st 2011

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I like it how you're stating a fact that was never documented anywhere as if it's something obvious.

It's called research:

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4. NanoSword, Batbox? Hell, how do you know of this secret projects consisting of a laser-sword like weapon to cut through nanosuits and the Tier 1 MFE called woodern batbox? I think i need to slap someone in the dev team for constantly leaking informations :O

I know it's mentioned in other places as well, but this is the one that I remember and could find the easiest.

Edit:

http://forum.industrial-craft.…read&postID=3952#post3952

WarChicken78 · Nov 1st 2011

Yes, for SMP this might make sense, but for SSP it's really not useful at all.
And if that's the only application of the Sabre that erects it over the Chainsaw in SMP, I still say it's not really worth it.
The difference is too little IMO.

alexthesax · Nov 2nd 2011

Quote from WarChicken78

Yes, for SMP this might make sense, but for SSP it's really not useful at all.
And if that's the only application of the Sabre that erects it over the Chainsaw in SMP, I still say it's not really worth it.
The difference is too little IMO.

Look it was built for the PVP server owners who requested it, because nano suits were not balanced for them, not for SSP, if you don't like it, guess what you don't have to make it, and you don't ever have to think about it, obviously it wasn't designed for you, so what difference does it make for you?

Kane Hart · Nov 2nd 2011

Quote from alexthesax

Look it was built for the PVP server owners who requested it, because nano suits were not balanced for them, not for SSP, if you don't like it, guess what you don't have to make it, and you don't ever have to think about it, obviously it wasn't designed for you, so what difference does it make for you?

I agree with this and accept it 100%. But your lacking an equivalent range damage for use against nano suits.

WarChicken78 · Nov 2nd 2011

Quote from alexthesax

Look it was built for the PVP server owners who requested it, because nano suits were not balanced for them, not for SSP, if you don't like it, guess what you don't have to make it, and you don't ever have to think about it, obviously it wasn't designed for you, so what difference does it make for you?

See, even your language is a bit harsh, I get it. The problem was, it doesn't have a label "Designet only for SMP"
I've just seen, that in my SSP game, it's redundant, and thought I'd make a suggerstion to make it better.

Thread can be closed.

Hawk777 · Nov 2nd 2011

The IC wiki is a wiki. You should propose the SMP-only-label for the nanosabre on the talk page!

Kane Hart · Nov 2nd 2011

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The IC wiki is a wiki. You should propose the SMP-only-label for the nanosabre on the talk page!

Feel free and no SMP Only but recommend SMP only usage and also indicate why.

Alblaka · Nov 2nd 2011

NanoSaber is intentionnaly not onehitting casual mobs. However, if you fight against anything with more then 10 hearts, you will easyly spot it deals more damage then chainsaw.

In either case, the NanoSabers original use is to make PvP fights possible again. Even with chainsaw it took ages to take down somebody in a full Nano/Quantum Suit.
The NanoSaber deal extreme bonus damage on people wearing these suits. Somewhat about ~30 hearts if i'm not mistaken.

Kuudere · Nov 2nd 2011

Quote from Adien_Alexander

It's called research:

I apologize for the implication, and that's fair enough, but you can't possibly be seriously suggesting I figure out there's some secret hidden quantity to the sword and go off searching with that in mind. I read the wiki religiously, but I'm beginning to realize it's kind of half useful at best. I knew it does more than 5 hearts, because it can oneshot crit things, but the extra damage to N/Qsuits isn't possible to figure out unless I make a habit of killing everyone I see.

Mensrea · Nov 2nd 2011

Since the nano-saber has a PVP purpose any chance you could make the tesla coil do insane amounts of damage to people in nano/quantum armor so it still retains its function in PVP? I noticed people in suits marching through the things as if they hadn't stopped the entire allied army from invading the soviet union.

Ranakastrasz · Nov 2nd 2011

Quote from Mensrea

Since the nano-saber has a PVP purpose any chance you could make the tesla coil do insane amounts of damage to people in nano/quantum armor so it still retains its function in PVP? I noticed people in suits marching through the things as if they hadn't stopped the entire allied army from invading the soviet union.

The allied army didn't have a scientist who discovered that the mass fabricator could run far faster with a special material that could be made from anything, and hence were unable to, even with an outrageous amount of fossil-fuel burning, produce as much as 3 iridium plates, let along enough for everyone to have a suit.

On the serious side, I agree. It should certainly deal more suit damage.

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