• Did you ever wonder what happened to the "secret" superfuel from IC? Well, I did. Developers of IC² already mentioned "adulterated fuel". Alblaka stated that you could put other things than Fuelcells into Fuelcans with the canning machine. Well, I did some experiments to find out more about it. To not ruin your fun about finding out things about superfuel, I'll put the stuff I found out in spoilers.

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    First, the most important ingredients in superfuel are Redstone Dust, Glowstone Dust, and of course Biofuel Cells and Coalfuel Cells.
    I tried several fuel recipes. The first one I tried was of course the IC superfuel recipe( :Mining Pipe =Nothing; :Coal Dust: =Gunpowder; :Gold Dust: =Glowstone Dust; :Copper Dust: =Redstone Dust):
    :Mining Pipe :Gold Dust:
    :Coal Dust: :Fuel: :Coal Dust:
    :Mining Pipe :Copper Dust:
    So I combined 2 coalfuel cells , 2 piles of gunpowder , 1 pile of redstone and 1 pile of glowstonde dust. This gave me 51680 EU in a generator.
    Then, I wanted to create something out of only dust. I found out you can't begin filling a fuel can with dust. After that, I made several experiments using only 1 fuelcell and 5 pieces of dust/powder. As we all know,a coalfuel cell is worth
    12 740 EU and a biofuel cell is worth 4340 EU. Using this knowledge, I found out that gunpowder is worth 11 152 EU if 5 piles of gunpowder are used with a coalfuel cell, but it's only worth 3798 EU if 5 are used with a biofuel cell. One pile of glowstone dust is worth 6908 EU when using 5 piles of it with a coalfuel cell, but only 2350 EU when used with a biofuel cell. Redstone is worth 3788 EU when 5 piles are used with a coalfuel cell, but only 1288 EU when used with a biofuel cell. The difference between coal superfuel and bio superfuel awakened my interest. After a few more experiments, I found out that a pile of redstone with 5 coalfuel cells is worth 2540 EU, with 5 biofuel cells 860 EU. A pile of glowstone dust with 5 coalfuel cells is worth 3820 EU, with 5 biofuel cells it's worth 1300 EU. A pile of gunpowder with 5 coalfuel cells is worth 5090 EU, with 5 biofuel cells 1730 EU. So the kind of other ingredients, the quantity of other ingredients and the quantity of the ingredient seem to influence how many EU the ingredient is worth. Please tell me if you find out a good fuel mixture!
    Please excuse the extensive use of emoticons, most likely I will reduce the amount of them later.


    Please excuse and tell me any mistakes you find here, I will correct them. Please tell me if this was posted already, I didn't find something like this by searching.
    Thanks for reading!

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  • Mmm, I had discovered this a while back, just by putting in a coal fuel cell in the canner then just tossing in all the dusts I could think of. I found that using the ingredients from IC1 super fuel worked quite nicely. However, I could not burn it in a generator (has something to do with it not being in NBT tags?)

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  • However, I could not burn it in a generator

    That's strange... I had no problems with burning it. By the way, could you use other dusts than the IC1-superfuel-dusts? At the moment I can't test it.

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  • AFAIK, only redstone, gunpowder, and glowstone work. However, I haven't tried coal dust.

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  • It doesn't work. I tried the metal dusts, coal dust, hydrated coal dust, scrap, UUM and a few vanilla dusts.

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  • I did a bit of research and reverse engineered the fuel recipe formula after burning a forest worth of saplings and killing a small nation worth of creepers (etc.).

    The TL;DR Ultimate Fuels List:

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    Order Matters (and pretend the Tin Dust is Gunpowder):

    Single Can (minimizing work):

    Coal Superfuel (104,870 EU): :Coal Cell::Coal Cell::Coal Cell::Tin Dust::Tin Dust::Tin Dust:
    Biomass Superfuel (35,720 EU): :Bio Cell::Bio Cell::Bio Cell::Tin Dust::Tin Dust::Tin Dust:

    Single Cell (maximizing power extraction):
    Coal Superfuel (68,510 EU): :Coal Cell::Tin Dust::Tin Dust::Tin Dust::Tin Dust::Tin Dust:
    Biomass Superfuel (23,340 EU): :Bio Cell::Tin Dust::Tin Dust::Tin Dust::Tin Dust::Tin Dust:


    For those of you who want to know the exact formula:

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    A Fuelcan starts at 0 fuel (I know ... duh).

    A Coalfuel Cell will add 12740 EU to the accumulated total value of the fuel.
    A Biofuel Cell will add 4340 EU to the accumulated total value of the fuel.

    Gunpowder will multiply the current accumulated total of the fuel by 1.4.
    Glowstone will multiply the current accumulated total of the fuel by 1.3.
    Redstone will multiply the current accumulated total of the fuel by 1.2.

    You'll note that because of this, it is always advantageous to put your Cells into the can first, then your additive dusts afterwards.

    Examples of how to calculate fuel value

    :Coal Cell::Coal Cell::Coal Cell::Tin Dust::Tin Dust::Tin Dust: yields:

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    :Coal Cell:  12740  (+12740)
     :Coal Cell:  25480  (+12740)
     :Coal Cell:  38220  (+12740)
     :Gunpowder:  53508  (x 1.4)
     :Gunpowder:  74911  (x 1.4)
     :Gunpowder: 104875  (x 1.4)


    while :Bio Cell::Tin Dust::Bio Cell::Gold Dust::Bio Cell::Copper Dust: yields:

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    :Bio Cell:    4340 (+4340)
     :Gunpowder:   6076 (x 1.4)
     :Bio Cell:   10416 (+4340)
     :Glowstone:  13541 (x 1.3)
     :Bio Cell:   17881 (+4340)
     :Redstone:   21457 (x 1.2)
  • sweet. time to expand my storage and build a mob grinder MinecraftCreeper + :Coal Cell: ...?...profit!

    acording to the IC2 Wiki, the best superfuel recipe will give 120,000EUs, i have yet to discover this, have you happened to find it?

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  • acording to the IC2 Wiki, the best superfuel recipe will give 120,000EUs, i have yet to discover this, have you happened to find it?

    Old Ic1 information still in the wiki?

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  • Ehm there always was a use for coal be it in generators or making diamonds with them.

    It always felt like a waste just burning it once nuclear energy became available, and turning it into diamonds really, really eats away at your coal reserves. Mine is usually turned into carbon plates, or left as coal until needed for another project. Having the super fuel makes it a very viable fuel source right up until you have multiple mkII generators constantly running.

  • So what, now to maximize my EU yield I have to mix gunpowder with the coalfuel? That's going to make my automatic Coal Fuel plant a heck of a lot more complicated. To the lab!

    Edit: My gut instinct about the two flavors of 'optimum' superfuel is that:

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    While the 3 coalfuel - 3 gunpowder recipe has the greatest burn time, the 1 coalfuel - 5 gunpowder recipe uses 2/3 less nonrenewable resources, and gives you about double the EU yield per coalfuel cell; and because it saves on four macerations/compressions/extractions, should be more efficient (as the can itself is renewable). Of course, this assumes that your mob traps can keep pace with the coalfuel production -- though I have a couple interesting ideas for buildcraft/IC2 enhanced grinders

  • i don't like deep mining all my coal goes to diamonds if i can help it

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  • I just see coal as a extra source of diamonds.

    I see Coal as my ONLY source of Diamonds until I get to end game... and even then, the coal is still cheaper to farm...

    Would anyone like to try a Slowpoke Tail?! Only 1 Million Yen!

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