[GregTech-5][1.7.10-FORGE-1355+][Unofficial but approved Port][Stable] Even GT5 Experimental is slowly getting stable.

    Using 5.09.06 - Thanks for keeping this going and adding more features.

    Printed Silicon can still be made using a Silicon Plate in the Inscriber Press, but not in the Adv Forming Press. Is this a feature, or a bug? Kind of throws a wrench into my expansion plans, since the Inscriber Press is so bloody slow.

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    Using 5.09.06 - Thanks for keeping this going and adding more features.

    Printed Silicon can still be made using a Silicon Plate in the Inscriber Press, but not in the Adv Forming Press. Is this a feature, or a bug? Kind of throws a wrench into my expansion plans, since the Inscriber Press is so bloody slow.

    You know, inscribers AE could take up to 3 speed upgrade cards, also they almost do not consume energy and i recommend make like for 16 inscribers for each of press and 32 inscribers for making processors.

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    You know, inscribers AE could take up to 3 speed upgrade cards, also they almost do not consume energy and i recommend make like for 16 inscribers for each of press and 32 inscribers for making processors.

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    You know, inscribers AE could take up to 3 speed upgrade cards, also they almost do not consume energy and i recommend make like for 16 inscribers for each of press and 32 inscribers for making processors.

    Understood, but not really the point. Both gold plates and diamond plates still function in the Adv. Forming Press, but silicon plates do not. Does not seem consistent to me, hence my post. Also, what might work best for you will not for everyone, so your "recommendation" does not address the issue. Thanks anyway.

    Speaking of silicon for AE2, I've tried un-disabling the quartz smelting to silicon in recipes.cfg, and it doesn't seem to have an effect - either way, the inscriber (or the forming press with GT 5.08 ) requires the GT silicon plate to make printed silicon, and the AE2 silicon item doesn't even show up in NEI. Is there something done on the AE2 side to prevent that from working? If so, is there any point in still having that option in recipes.cfg?

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    Speaking of silicon for AE2, I've tried un-disabling the quartz smelting to silicon in recipes.cfg, and it doesn't seem to have an effect - either way, the inscriber (or the forming press with GT 5.08 ) requires the GT silicon plate to make printed silicon, and the AE2 silicon item doesn't even show up in NEI. Is there something done on the AE2 side to prevent that from working? If so, is there any point in still having that option in recipes.cfg?

    Yes, that is AE2 doing it. When it detects another mod adding a oredict "itemSilicon" it disables it's own and uses that other.

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    The first location I tried to oil-drill in test world contained natural gas. Natural gas is only 15 EU/l, (15 000 for a bucket), so energy "profit" was negative (needs more energy to pump out than it can be gained by burning gas). Intentional?

    Is it still possible in GT 5.09 to distill natural gas to get methane? That has a fuel value of 45 EU/L.

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    The first location I tried to oil-drill in test world contained natural gas. Natural gas is only 15 EU/l, (15 000 for a bucket), so energy "profit" was negative (needs more energy to pump out than it can be gained by burning gas). Intentional?

    Yes, you must search for an big enough source with enough output. For natural gas it that would be >300L/cycle. About 5% of all sources have that much, so it needs a bit of search. Also noticed that some processing recipes for gas/oil are still missing, so next update will bring some more alternatives.

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    Just tested LV and MV forming press and both worked for me.
    Though as of latest version you required to provide Empty Circuit Board, rather then silicon plate.

    Understood, but still does not answer the question - bug or feature?

    Since gold plate and diamond plate still are able to be processed as in earlier versions in the forming press, should not the silicon plate also be able to be processed? As currently stands, seems inconsistent.

    If anything, the added steps for the processor should apply to the engineering processor, as it is made from diamond and is used in higher tier devices, and silicon remain craftable with fewer steps.

    Is my logic off? Is there something I am not seeing here?

    Thanks

    It's a tough call whether that's a bug. On the one hand, the forming press shouldn't require extra materials that aren't required by the inscriber press (e.g. the polyethylene used for making an empty circuit board). On the other hand, making the other circuits in the forming press requires extra pre-processing compared to the inscriber press (e.g. gold plate instead of gold ingot, diamond plate instead of diamond gem), so applying that to printed silicon makes it more consistent than before.

    On a slight tangent, what gives you the idea that the AE2 inscriber press is "bloody slow"? In my survival game, without any acceleration cards, it only took just over 5 seconds per process, which is on par with the MV-tier GT forming press for circuits and printed silicon. For making the processors, an LV assembler would be slightly faster, so you might have a point for that part.

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    It's a tough call whether that's a bug. On the one hand, the forming press shouldn't require extra materials that aren't required by the inscriber press (e.g. the polyethylene used for making an empty circuit board). On the other hand, making the other circuits in the forming press requires extra pre-processing compared to the inscriber press (e.g. gold plate instead of gold ingot, diamond plate instead of diamond gem), so applying that to printed silicon makes it more consistent than before.

    On a slight tangent, what gives you the idea that the AE2 inscriber press is "bloody slow"? In my survival game, without any acceleration cards, it only took just over 5 seconds per process, which is on par with the MV-tier GT forming press for circuits and printed silicon. For making the processors, an LV assembler would be slightly faster, so you might have a point for that part.

    I agree with the pre-processing, but silicon already requires a blast furnace, which is much more expensive than gold ingots to plates or even diamond, which is just energy input.

    I am probably thinking of manually running the inscriber press, which I found to be tedious and annoying. I admit to not having used cards, having bailed and moved into GT machines only for my processing facility. Perhaps with some tweaking on my part, the inscriber press would be fine, but ti does not fit in with the "feel" off my processing plan and facility. That is simply personal preference, but the appearance of inconsistency in the processing of materials strikes me as off when comparing silicon to gold, diamond and quartz.

    In GT 5.08.29, Silicon plate on a HV forming press works (didn't tried the MV one).
    I don't know what or why changed, but you can always use minetweaker to add it back.

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    Hmm, i did use the empty circuit board for AE2 silicon in 5.09? That was not planned... But for all other circuits it was certainy intended. Adding plastic everywhere. There are still 3 more types of plastics missing that need to be used in recipes soon. ;)


    I see, thanks for the clarification. Not sure how I feel about that, but then, I'm a "get off my lawn" kind of player. Cheers

    Not a requirement but Gregtech could have admin commands and some stats.

    * List Gregtech machine (ticking) tiles per username/UUID and get total and average count/tile type ticking load,
    * Same for all server and per dimension
    * retrieve a given tile location

    Fun stats:
    - Total current GT EU consumed in server/per player and since map start
    - GT Ores mined
    - Total Machines runtime / per machine / per machine tier ...
    - JSON Export stats or listening HTTP socket POST/GET JSON API

    Gregtech management:
    - Commands to enable/disable/reset/empty/fix defect a given GT Machine tile, dump machine state data.
    - Commands to remove a specific user owned GT Tiles. Tag queue removal request so tile block is replaced by air at the next ticking event (don't try to remove/unloaded tiles)

    Odd question but... Do solar panels attached to Steam turbines (or other power-producing machines) contribute to the output? Might be a useful way to counteract efficiency loss.

    Also, how do you 'recharge' an LZH or RSH condensator? I can't seem to combine redstone or lapis with them in my crafting grid or a workbench. Am I missing something?

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    Quoted from "zorn":
    People can't handle losing. Lots of new games are like this. My son's Lego games? You die and respawn on the spot, just lose a bit of money. It's made so that anyone can win, even the worst players. Like TE, or EU. They say that IC2 is 'keeping them from moving on' but can never say what that is. In reality they just failed, blew up a bunch of stuff, and their fragile egos couldn't take it so they gravitate towards mods designed to guarantee that you succeed.

    Edited once, last by axlegear (October 7, 2015 at 4:47 AM).