[GregTech-5][1.7.10-FORGE-1355+][Unofficial but approved Port][Stable] Even GT5 Experimental is slowly getting stable.

Quote from targetingyou78

Ore processing in gregtech is a little different than mekanism. In gregtech you process ores to get secondary by products (or more). Mekanism you just process to get multiplicative output. So if you process and ore like ruby you can get other materials out of it like Chrome. Where as in Mekanism if you fully process gold you get 5x gold ingots. I would go into more detail but I'm in class on my phone.

Here is a link to all the ores and the byproducts you can get out of them with proper processing.
http://ftb.gamepedia.com/GregTech_5/Mining_and_Processing

Thanks for the link, now I have much more todo as tought - But I'll give my best to get those byproducts which I rly need, other stuff can go into Mekanism's x5 processing.

Quote from Blood Asp

GT ores can only be processed by GT machines mostly anyway. Mekanism or other mods have only <10% of the GT ores and can't process the other stuff. Also in some cases the byproducts are more important, so again you need GT oreprocessing. For the few things you can process with mekansism building a processing line is not worth the work.

I don't think so since Mekanism changed the work for the Solar Evaporation Tower compleatly an labled it new as Thermal Evaporation Tower, also the recipes have changed so you can easiely go to x2/x3 and since that we have Draconic Evolution in the MP x5 is important for this because actually we don't have the power to run a world with draconium ore in RFTools. This is my meaning for this :).

Well, nobady which has any idea for the AESU and IDSU?

AESU and IDSU dont exist in GT5U, all power storage blocks have been replaced with batteries and battery buffers. for across dimension power you can just transfer batteries in ender chests I guess.

Quote from bear989

AESU and IDSU dont exist in GT5U, all power storage blocks have been replaced with batteries and battery buffers. for across dimension power you can just transfer batteries in ender chests I guess.

transfer batteries will still be a manual labor as automation for re-batteries is disabled.

But we do have an "wireless power transmission" , i am still far from it, so idk how it works.

this last update broke allot of recipes on infitech2 , some metals became meta item and some processing, like mercury into quicksilver vanished.

Ok, then I'll take a look on that too.

However, what about the ores which are coming from GT5U? It does not seems that they are all silktouch able because my TCunstruct Hammer has Silktouch on it but it does not work.
Is this a problem between GT and TC or is this wanted? Or can I only be silktouching GT-Ores with GT stuff? Also is the EnderQuarry with his silktouchupgrade be able to mine GT-Ores or
not?

Normal ores drop themselves.
Small ores never silk touch.

as error said silk touch on GT ores is essentially useless, in GT6 you have a better chance at better quality gems from silk touch but that is it, all GT ores drop as a block, all small ores drop crush, dust, or gem if applicable. fortune does in fact help with small ore though.

Remind me how to turn off machine explosions on overcharging? I dont think this punishment is fair since i would not do this on purpose EVER. I dont want to rebuild my entire production line because my attention slipped for a second or because i misclicked. I was making a ITNT production line and i put LV Machine hull to configure conduit to output nitric mixture for my HV Chemical reactor. I didnt want other fluids to come in. And before i could say "oh s...", entire line blew up and machines vaporated, taking a couple of barrels of oil byproducts with them. This isn't fun at all and things like this may cause player to quit.

Ah ok, it comes from those small ores, good to know :).

Hmmm, I am actaully playing with Essential Craft 3 but GT seems to hase a running thread which converts many objects into GT ones which is fine but not if I use Essential Craft's Mihtriline Plates which are converting into Demonic Plates.
If I am not fast enough, I can't get with them those Mithriline Platings for the Mitriline Furnace. Is this "hardcoded" or is there an option or blacklist to disable item converting for gregtech?

It is still fine for all those ingots and some other stuff, but for stuff whith which GT hasn't todo anything else it shouldn't touch it and let it be as it is, because then it can be that GT breaks the affected mod compleatly, if you don't want
to trade the crafting materials instantly over creative mode.

I hope that I am asking not to much but at some point google does not provide any information on that for GT5U or later.

Quote from Chaoschaot234

option or blacklist to disable item converting for gregtech?

Configs! Specifically, "Unification.cfg" in minecraft/config/Gregtech

for a particular item type replace "_false=false" with "_false=true" for the mod you want GT to unify to.
I predict you want to find

essential_craft {	B:plateDemonic_false=false...

Quote from *error user name found*

Configs! Specifically, "Unification.cfg" in minecraft/config/Gregtech

for a particular item type replace "_false=false" with "_false=true" for the mod you want GT to unify to.
I predict you want to find

Code

essential_craft {	B:plateDemonic_false=false...

This is nice, then I'll have to take a look on it. Does GT share the configs from the server to the client like Mekanism and other mods are doing it? Because change this on the server only without changing it on the client should then be enough or not?

I hope it's ok for doubble posting:

If I am right and if the config does not matter I can revoke many changes if I set

_false=true or _true=false

, I am right?

Also, if I did not find the boolean for an item (I think it must be registered in the ore dictionary), can I add it simply like I have done it with B:plateDemonic_false=true
or was it only not be recogniced?

Ok, now I have a big problem and I don't know how to fix it:

essentialcraft {        B:dustMagic_false=true        B:gemDiamond_false=true        B:gemEmerald_false=true        B:gemEnderPearl_false=true        B:gemRuby_false=true        B:gemSapphire_false=true        B:ingotGold_false=true        B:ingotMagic_false=true        B:ingotThaumium_false=true        B:plateDemonic_false=true        B:plateDiamond_false=true        B:plateEmerald_false=true        B:plateEnder_false=true        B:plateGlass_false=true        B:plateMagic_false=false        B:plateMithriline_false=true        B:plateObsidian_false=true        B:platePale_false=true        B:plateRedstone_false=true        B:plateVoid_false=true    }

As you can see I have changed _false=false to _false=true but now all plates are "morphing" into plateMithriline which is the Mithriline Plate. If I disable B:plateMagic_false=true then I get from each plate Magical Plate and this is also not good.
Now the question is how to disable the process for the hole mod compleatly, so that GT does never change any item from Essential Craft 3 any more but it should be possible to use the item in GT Machines to craft them.

I hope that you can help me with this because it is currently for this mod not good (but for the other mods it is ok, no more n-Stacks for each Copper, Tin, or what ever ingot is more then two times available).

Ok, I think that I found the problem. It is the point the three plates have two unified oredict entries: plateMagic (include Magic, Demonic and Mithriline Plate) and then they are splited in plateDemonic, plateMithriline and the last one is only in plate Magic so this can possible cause this problem which I currently have, so is it possible to do anything at this point?

Quote from bear989

as error said silk touch on GT ores is essentially useless, in GT6 you have a better chance at better quality gems from silk touch but that is it, all GT ores drop as a block, all small ores drop crush, dust, or gem if applicable. fortune does in fact help with small ore though.

Are you sure fortune works on small ores? I thought I read somewhere that it does not.

I am almost possitive, this was something in since pre .08 and .09 branches. you have a chance of getting a better gem, crushed rather than dust, or an extra dust. I use it a lot early on in my worlds in GT5 and GT6. I went back into the main Gregtech forum to posts in 2014 talking about this and that is definitely GT5 era.

I tried out - in GregTech.cfg - B:CraftingUnification=false and B:InventoryUnification=false but it did not work because if the prefered Item is pushed into an inventory it is "morphed" too, also the Pale Gem is "morphed" into Perodit(e) Gem which isn't rly funny because this item should and must be untouched and I rly don't know why it is in so many unified oredict entries ... means in fact that the unification process must be removed from this mod compleatly for all non-GT Mods which means that it only touches vanilla things on change.

I hope that you remove it otherwise I please you to show me the source code so that I can fork and remove it on my own.

you need to change the specific ingot. plate. gem under the specific mod that is effected. if there is a specific mod that is being affected because of the unification that is because they arent using the ore dic for there recipes so post a issue on github so bloody can look at it.

p.s.
trying to tell a modder what he/she must do to there mod or port of a mod is never a good idea btw. You arent paying them for the work they are doing so if ya dont the work they are doing then your getting what you paid for.

Quote from bear989

you need to change the specific ingot. plate. gem under the specific mod that is effected. if there is a specific mod that is being affected because of the unification that is because they arent using the ore dic for there recipes so post a issue on github so bloody can look at it.

p.s.
trying to tell a modder what he/she must do to there mod or port of a mod is never a good idea btw. You arent paying them for the work they are doing so if ya dont the work they are doing then your getting what you paid for.

Thanksfor your fast replay bear. Can I ask you for a private talk on/in the IRC-Channel? I think it is the fastes way so that I can prepare the bug-/feature report. And sorry if I was a little ... this was not what I wanted ;).

Quote from GregoriusT

The Unification is there to actually FIX Bugs inside other Mods. If other Mods add to the OreDict but don't use OreDict themselves (what is idiotic behavior on their side), then the Config gives you the option to fix it yourself. And don't tell me you only want Unification on vanilla Stuff, that is ridiculous and would have no effects at all. Unification makes it so that you only have one type of Ingot/Gem per Material instead of a dozen different ones with totally identical functionality.

And GT Inventories unificate no matter what, that can and should never be turned off.

If there is an Issue with a specific Mod then telling Bloody that one specific Mod is being stupid, might help setting a default Target (what in turn will fix all the morphed gems in the next update), what is used for fixing MAAAAAAAANY retarded Mods already.

I can't agree with this GregoriusT, sorry. But you can't going to mod specific Items like those fromEssential Craft or other Mods which ar needed from the mod. If the mod EE3 would be mine then I would force you to blacklist all of the mods stuff and to do not touch it in any form. Sorry again but you don't have the right to go through the hole oredict and change the behavior of the mod without testing it and since many mods are no linger continuing anymore or won't get support since they moved to 1.10.2 it is rly bad to try to unificate them. I also think that you don't have read all of my posts twice since that your unification process destroys Essential Craft 3 compleatly because it changes three important plates which I have explained above and such things should not ... no did not have to happen!

I only agree with all those metal ingots/blocks but not more, sorry, because you said it, they register them with the oredict but then they don't use it in the recipes which can be stupied or which is wanted and if so then don't touch such matrials if they not used over the oredict, simple as that.

Sometimes you don't need the oredict if you have only one entrie in it so I would register my item over the ordict, but I would never use the oredict in the name if the recipe is a mod specific ones for a mod specific item.

And yes, I will go into the config now and change the craftin and inventory unification from true to false until this problem is fixed and I hope Blood Asp can fix it (I can also try to help him with that), but If I should use in the feature any of your official Version I'll fork the repro and force out the hole unification from it (commenting them out should enough) because to say other modders are idiotic is one point but pls touch your own nose because it can be that you will be the one who acts false and breaks smooth running things.

I like the mod but I don't like how the unification destroys other mods functionallity only why they are not using the oredict at all the time so not only they are doing it (eventuall) wrong but, so plesae think about the hole unification process and force out mods which can eventually break which can be bypassed if you only touch metal ingots/block and not more/less.

This is my opinion.

Quote from GregoriusT

As I said it fixes things that are otherwise broken. I don't intentionally break other Mods, that would be just as bad. But now on IRC we found out that Essentialcraft registers one Item under multiple OreDict Names that are incompatible to each other, what is basically unfixable. The only thing that can be done is blacklisting those Pale things from unification, since it is clearly not solvable with unification targets.

You are right. This sould be blacklisted as soon as possible I think. And like also said on IRC it would be glad if a mod based blacklist for the unification is possible or not. I know that this then means core changes but at the end the user
can then blacklist hole mods to prevent such things from the beginning ;).

I think that this should only be add a for/if/else or a for/switch/case (which is quite better).