[GregTech-5][1.7.10-FORGE-1355+][Unofficial but approved Port][Stable] Even GT5 Experimental is slowly getting stable.


    I'm not sure why you tried to use a hopper with an output hatch. You can put the bucket in manually (after opening the output hatch gui) and the water should go into the ore washing plant (provided the output hatch has been wrenched to point towards the ore washer). Alternatively, since you seem to have a BuildCraft tank there, you could use a buildcraft wooden pipe with a redstone engine and lever to get it into buildcraft pipes and use those to get the water into the machine (though personally I think you might be better off using a buildcraft pump than trying to use buckets). If you specify what mods are in the modpack (or at least the name of the modpack, so I can try to find its modlist), I might be able to offer additional options for getting water into the machine.

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    I'm baffled that you'd buffer the steam output of a Large Heat Exchanger in a RC tank like that. Looking at the FTB wiki documentation for it, running it with 3999 coolant per second (just below the threshold for superheated steam) gives it a potential output of 319920 steam per second, which is beyond even the capacity of a large high-pressure fluid pipe (192000 L/sec). Aside from the "Pressure Pipes" mod (which I consider overpowered), I don't know what pipes from other mods can provide sufficient throughtput - I'm pretty sure none of the straight BuildCraft pipes are fast enough, not sure about the ones from the BC addon mods. If I were to use a Large Heat Exchanger for steam instead of one of the other gas/liquid fuel options, I think I'd feed the output directly into a large steam turbine instead (no pipes in-between).

    I'm guessing the "Sampler" mod in the FastCraft thread can help with that.

    Right - BC pipes are imho quite rough, but usefull at begining. For LHE I had two 6 chamber liquid reactors with four quad uranium rods rounded by reflectors, which really gives a kick (and more if got lagged end exploded if not shielded ^^) - ive tryied to put one BC tank and 2 resonant servos of Thermal Dynamic via laminar fluiducts, which has "limitless transfer if pressurized" in tooltip, but LHE was still full at its every output. Ive done that just beacouse of potential production of HP steam, which will stuck entire setup then. I knew that is insufficient and needs to be re-planned. However its gives a lot to think and thats why I love minecraft with mods. After removing some mods (probably Twilight Forest casuses all problems with fluctuating time and lags of internal server) and recreating world ill try to create a new steam system and try other ways of pumping hot coolant into LHE, maybe even without tanks, just directly to generators.

    At old world ive expirienced unexpected explosions from battery buffers (probably) few times. Quite close was HP turbine, but most part of it survived, thus i dont think it causes ignition. Near was MV replicator, 3 MV mass producers and IV recycler and a bunch of transformers from IV to MV. Any idea how it could be even possible?

    And third scrappy though to share: how to make GT solar panel? When ive tryied to put solar cover a top of battery buffer it exploded just after first raindrop touched it. That setup should be covered by glass block?

    Quote from MauveCloud

    Update: I did some oil drilling a few days ago. The first location had 40 L/cycle heavy oil, which I skipped, especially since heavy oil tends to take MV machines to process. The second location had 184 L/cycle light oil, which I thought was good, until I discovered that after I moved my oil drilling rig to the surface (for easier access), it cost me 55984 L refinery gas to get 64 more cells of light oil. My first thought was to look for a richer oil field, and my third drilling attempt got me 1 L/cycle oil, which definitely wasn't worth continuing. Then I looked at https://github.com/Blood-Asp/GT5-Unofficial/issues/1238 . It claims that the effective maximum with default configs is 312 L/cycle, which by my calculations would cost me about 28611 L refinery gas. Looking closer at the bug today, I see the amount per cycle is actually dependent on the multiblock voltage, which makes no sense to me, and will likely confuse anyone trying to tweak the config files for different balance. It looks like running the multiblock at LuV will give the expected range, and running it at MaxV (if anyone can come up with a powerful enough energy source for that) will give it 1.75x per cycle.

    In the meantime, I've started setting up kinetic wind generators until I can build a pyrolyse oven and distillation tower for methane production (carrots -> bio chaff -> fermented biomass -> methane).

    Further update: the wind generators aren't as reliable or as powerful as I thought (and I hadn't taken into consideration that the distillation tower requires EV circuits), so I switched to using oilsands ore processed to light fuel, but now as I add more autocrafting toward making EV circuits, I see my light fuel reserves dwindling at an alarming pace even with none of my GT machines running (only my AE2 network), possibly due to having things spread out so I could connect separate kinetic wind generators. I could try to rearrange things, but I have some other regrets that make me wonder whether I should start from scratch instead (I might add Biomes O Plenty, and swap out Ender IO for Thermal Expansion, but with most blocks except for the aqueous accumulator disabled):

    1. I disabled AE2 certus quartz worldgen.

    2. I disabled AE2 channels.

    3. I've got a lot of Forestry butterflies around - they're not causing performance issues that I can notice, but they've finally gone from "pretty" to "annoying", and idk if it's safe to just switch off the lepidoptery module mid-game.

    Also, does anyone have tips for setting up autocrafting involving fluids? (i.e. send X amount of fluid to a given machine and get Y amount out) Can that only be done by filling one or more cells via the Extra Cells fluid terminal and using fluid canners (to allow auto input/output of empty cells) and possibly a subnet?

    Butterflies shouldnt be nasty - as i remeber somwhere is config to lower their numbers in atmosphere. Easiest way that memory brings me is putting fliuds into cells then sending those cells to Thermal Foundation Cyclic Assembler; ill check my mods that there is something usefull for operating only at fluids. Using fluids directly - i cannot say, maybe GT pumps or fluid regulators and large chemical reactor, but i suppose it is not needed answer., But if fluid is in cell, maybe helpfull will be Thermal Dynamic servo, which has configurable extracting rates.

    Edited once, last by xxx.514 (November 1, 2017 at 12:27 PM).

    Let me see if I can clarify a bit. Suppose I've got some Ethylene in ME fluid storage (from Extra Cells). What I'd like to be able to do is use small amounts of it (e.g. 144 L) in processing patterns that involve converting it to one type of plastic (polyethylene, PVC, PTFE, polystyrene, etc.) depending on what I need at the time. As far as I can tell, AE2 and extra cells do not offer me a way to do that. I think it's possible to set up an autocrafting pattern using cells of fluid, but I'd have to fill the cells manually in the fluid terminal, which somewhat defeats the purpose of having an autocrafting pattern, and I'd have to make larger batches of whichever type of plastic. I don't follow how a Thermal Dynamic servo would help with that.

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    Here the Code I mentioned for fixing the Collision Box of Concrete without giving up the Speed Buff.

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    @SubscribeEvent
    public void onLivingUpdate(LivingUpdateEvent aEvent) {
        if (aEvent.entityLiving.onGround) {
            int tX = MathHelper.floor_double(aEvent.entityLiving.posX), tY = MathHelper.floor_double(aEvent.entityLiving.boundingBox.minY-0.001F), tZ = MathHelper.floor_double(aEvent.entityLiving.posZ);
            Block tBlock = aEvent.entityLiving.worldObj.getBlock(tX, tY, tZ);
            if (tBlock instanceof IBlockOnWalkOver) ((IBlockOnWalkOver)tBlock).onWalkOver(aEvent.entityLiving, aEvent.entityLiving.worldObj, tX, tY, tZ);
        }
    }

    First the Event based Stuff. I used a Simple Interface for the Blocks so the Blocks can decide themselves what they do to the thing that walks over them.

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    @Override
    public void onWalkOver(EntityLivingBase aEntity, World aWorld, int aX, int aY, int aZ) {
        if ((aEntity.motionX != 0 || aEntity.motionZ != 0) && !aEntity.isInWater() && !aEntity.isWet() && !aEntity.isSneaking()) {
            double tSpeed = (mSide == SIDE_BOTTOM && aWorld.getBlock(aX, aY-1, aZ).slipperiness >= 0.8 ? 1.05 : 1.3);
            aEntity.motionX *= tSpeed; aEntity.motionZ *= tSpeed;
        }
    }

    And here the Code inside my Asphalt Block that speeds up the Player. Mostly without any Ice Hyperspeed thanks to checking the slipperiness of the Block below (important in case it is an Asphalt Slab), but it still adds to the Speed of the Quantum Leggings as intended.

    There is ofcourse an Interface for this exact Function in GT6.

    Quote from MauveCloud

    Let me see if I can clarify a bit. Suppose I've got some Ethylene in ME fluid storage (from Extra Cells). What I'd like to be able to do is use small amounts of it (e.g. 144 L) in processing patterns that involve converting it to one type of plastic (polyethylene, PVC, PTFE, polystyrene, etc.) depending on what I need at the time. As far as I can tell, AE2 and extra cells do not offer me a way to do that. I think it's possible to set up an autocrafting pattern using cells of fluid, but I'd have to fill the cells manually in the fluid terminal, which somewhat defeats the purpose of having an autocrafting pattern, and I'd have to make larger batches of whichever type of plastic. I don't follow how a Thermal Dynamic servo would help with that.

    Ow, now i exactly know what you do mean... Ive mentioned servo, beacouse it could be configured to pull out of container exact amount of items at once with different extracting rate and size depending of its model - and that is only for items (in your setting fluid cells). Only one thing i have for now is only to steeering of redstone ON signal pulsed ticks directed at specified servo of fluiduct, but that kind of automatisation is very fragile to internal lags and could not be satisfying to always work correctly (simple detection of short redstone signal) or give exact amount of fluid. And I think here come the time when we need Greg... I suppose you dont tryied Fluid Regulator cover yet?

    And about that -

    Quote from MauveCloud

    I'm baffled that you'd buffer the steam output of a Large Heat Exchanger in a RC tank like that. Looking at the FTB wiki documentation for it, running it with 3999 coolant per second (just below the threshold for superheated steam) gives it a potential output of 319920 steam per second, which is beyond even the capacity of a large high-pressure fluid pipe (192000 L/sec). Aside from the "Pressure Pipes" mod (which I consider overpowered), I don't know what pipes from other mods can provide sufficient throughtput - I'm pretty sure none of the straight BuildCraft pipes are fast enough, not sure about the ones from the BC addon mods. If I were to use a Large Heat Exchanger for steam instead of one of the other gas/liquid fuel options, I think I'd feed the output directly into a large steam turbine instead (no pipes in-between).

    - i think ive solved problem of mass production of steam: super-laminar fluiduct and array of retrivers at end device. Not checked directly, but will check that soon. All setting was tested during creating RotaryCraft jet fuel in fractination unit powered by microturbine, which in full speed with minimal needed torque going very fast with quite high amounts (internal tank has 240 000mB) - maximum fuel level never went over 19 000mB and nearly second later was 0, so mostly device was empty.

    When I was using large steam turbine with large turbine item inside made out of fluxed electrum or mithril, it outputs about 1500V at 1A per tick with use of 2500 L of steam per second which is not much when connected directly to LHE. Imho therefore is need of connecting pipes and pumping steam out of LHE.

    Quote from MauveCloud

    Let me see if I can clarify a bit. Suppose I've got some Ethylene in ME fluid storage (from Extra Cells). What I'd like to be able to do is use small amounts of it (e.g. 144 L) in processing patterns that involve converting it to one type of plastic (polyethylene, PVC, PTFE, polystyrene, etc.) depending on what I need at the time. As far as I can tell, AE2 and extra cells do not offer me a way to do that. I think it's possible to set up an autocrafting pattern using cells of fluid, but I'd have to fill the cells manually in the fluid terminal, which somewhat defeats the purpose of having an autocrafting pattern, and I'd have to make larger batches of whichever type of plastic. I don't follow how a Thermal Dynamic servo would help with that.

    You can do this exactly with Extracells.

    You code a machine/processing pattern with the exact amount of fluid in a container. Openblock tanks can do, Large Steel/TungstenSteel GT cells can do, and GT++ offers you 144L exact cells.

    Then place your pattern into a fluid export bus to your GT Machine.

    It will export the exact amount of fluid and items to craft using fluid on-demand.

    Quote from leagris

    You can do this exactly with Extracells.

    You code a machine/processing pattern with the exact amount of fluid in a container. Openblock tanks can do, Large Steel/TungstenSteel GT cells can do, and GT++ offers you 144L exact cells.

    Then place your pattern into a fluid export bus to your GT Machine.

    It will export the exact amount of fluid and items to craft using fluid on-demand.

    Fluid export bus? That does not have pattern slots. Perhaps you mean the fluid interface? Extra Cells 2 documentation does not make it clear that it can do that, but I tried placing one in creative mode, and it does have pattern slots, so I'm willing to believe it can do what you describe. I did not see the 144L cells in the documentation for GT++. However, I crafted a Network Tool and found that an AE2 network includes a passive power consumption of 1 AE/t per interface (and autocrafting GregTech items/blocks ends up requiring a lot of interfaces because there are so many different machines), so I think I'll try playing without AE2 this time around.

    Here's the list of mods I'm planning to use now (aside from required library mods, which are not listed), just in case anyone wants to suggest amendments:

    Display Spoiler

    Autofish

    Batty's Coordinates Plus Forge

    Better Foliage

    Binnie's Mods

    Biomes O Plenty

    Carpenter's Blocks

    Control Pack

    Craftable Nether Star

    CraftTweaker

    Forestry

    GregTech 5.09 custom (including changes from pull requests 1228, 1261, 1264, and 1269)

    GregTech++

    GTTweaker

    IndustrialCraft 2 Experimental

    Inventory Tweaks

    Iron Chests

    JABBA

    JourneyMap

    ModTweaker

    MouseTweaks

    Natura

    NEI

    NEI Addons

    NEI Integration

    Nuclear Control

    Optifine

    Railcraft

    Thermal Expansion (mostly disabled, except Aqueous Accumulator)

    Thermal Foundation (mostly disabled)

    Waila

    Waila Plugins

    Wawla

    Edit: interesting side effect I discovered of having TF installed - it (or possibly CoFHCore) seems to have disabled the vanilla iron shears, so with TF tools disabled, it looks like the only shears I can craft are the Railcraft steel shears. This might be deceptive, though, since the wooden fishing rod no longer shows up in NEI, but I can still craft one.

    I have one ask about circuits - how the heck I can create exquisite emereald or olivine. Normally its only available through sifter, there are other ways of enhancing crystals / dust, maybe mod, custom crafting recipe or something? Without that I'll be locked at ZPM voltage.

    Quote from xxx.514

    I have one ask about circuits - how the heck I can create exquisite emereald or olivine. Normally its only available through sifter, there are other ways of enhancing crystals / dust, maybe mod, custom crafting recipe or something? Without that I'll be locked at ZPM voltage.

    AFAIK, sifter or luck with small ores are normally the only ways to get exquisite gems. Personally, I wouldn't blame you if you wanted to add some GTTweaker recipes to upgrade gems via the implosion compressor (or possibly make them from gem blocks). However, I notice in NEI that once you've made one Crystal Processing Unit from an exquisite emerald or olivine, you can shapelessly craft it into 9 raw crystal chips, and process those into more Crystal Processing Units instead of having to obtain more exquisite emeralds/olvine.

    Quote from MauveCloud

    AFAIK, sifter or luck with small ores are normally the only ways to get exquisite gems. Personally, I wouldn't blame you if you wanted to add some GTTweaker recipes to upgrade gems via the implosion compressor (or possibly make them from gem blocks). However, I notice in NEI that once you've made one Crystal Processing Unit from an exquisite emerald or olivine, you can shapelessly craft it into 9 raw crystal chips, and process those into more Crystal Processing Units instead of having to obtain more exquisite emeralds/olvine.

    Eureka! Indeed NEI cathes that ?bug?:

    1x eq emerald = 1x raw crystal chip

    1x raw crystal chip = 1x engraved crystal chip

    1x engraved crystal chip = 1x crystal cpu

    1x crystal cpu = 9x raw crystal chip

    and circle closes! I wonder it is intended or bug.... Personally I thought about putting many emerald blocks into fusion reactor and fuse them with matter / plutonium / naquadah / radon / argon etc and so on hard achievable items or autoclaving stack of dusts in tritium or helium-3... But that glitch gives a chance... extremly small, but still. Thanks!

    Quote from GregoriusT

    I heard someone broke an entire feature without adding a replacement for it. It is now no longer possible to place Covers onto the Sides of Pipes like it was possible before, because someone thought it was a nice idea to carelessly make the hitboxes the size of the Pipe and not fullblock sized like before.

    It's one thing to have the Hitboxes smaller, but a compeltely different thing, if that change disables the ability to place a Cover behind or on the Sides of a Pipe, just because the hitbox of the pipe isnt large enough to show the options.

    For example, would it be possible to make the hitbox full sized whenever you hold a Cover related Tool or a Cover Item in hand? That would fix this Issue and restore the ability to place Covers on any of the 6 Sides without having to de-obstruct them

    This recent change really made GT5 Pipes an even larger PITA than they already were (due to the sheer existence of autoconnect messing up Pipes before you can even paint them).

    Please make sure that there is good reasoning and careful additions to the Mod, rather than this careless "I want this, so that other useful thing has to be removed!1!1!".

    Quote from Chocohead

    You couldn't fit a square metre cover around the back of a pipe you couldn't get a wrench around, so if anything it's closer to how real pipes work like it is now :P

    Somewhat late reply here, but I'm running into this now trying out the PR that makes GT5u pipes and cables behave more like they do in GT6 (i.e. requiring the use of a wrench to add connections).

    One problem with your logic Chocohead: the new hitboxes are more of a problem on small (and presumably tiny) pipes than they are on large pipes.

    Hello people's , can you help me with this problem?

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    I play FTB GT New Horizons modpack , he's have GregTech 5 , but i have crash with my save file.

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    gregtech.common.blocks.GT_Item_Casings6@634f3986

    What is block ? How fixed him?

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    Crash log :

    https://paste.ee/p/VUHWj


    PS: Sorry for my bad english.

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    Code
    java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 130
    at gregtech.common.blocks.GT_Block_Casings6.func_149691_a(GT_Block_Casings6.java:59)

    That class seems to only exist in GTNH's fork of GT5u (which I have not played, but I found it on GitHub), and the block is "Hermetic Casing", with an optional roman numeral after it, but that line is checking for an icon based on metadata that is normally supposed to only go up to 15. I have no idea how it could be 130 there, as that would correspond to "Hermetic Casing CXXX", which doesn't exist.

    If I'm reading your crashlog correctly, it's a block in your hotbar (though I can't tell which slot). I'm not familiar with MCEdit myself, but it might be possible to use that to remove the corrupted Hermetic Casing from your hotbar.

    Hi Blood and Greg

    I was wondering if I could use and modify some of your textures for my modpack?
    (Adding additional blocks/items with Quadrum, such as variants of ores, custom circuits and components ect)

    You'll be given full credit for your mod, and for the usage of your textures, with links provided to your curseforge/official websites page.

    Thank you.

    -PhoePhoe

    Hey guys i would like to know if its ok to redistribute a build of GT5-Unofficial that has been modified for sponge compatibility and with the render fixes by codewarrior @ https://github.com/Blood-Asp/GT5-…2f81?diff=split for a mod pack im almost done with

    originally i was using the gregtech-5.10.41.jar from curse but the rendering issues caused massive fps drops after a few cables were placed making it unplayable and the changes for sponge is just commenting out "new GT_Worldgenloader().run()" in postload and rolling my own in another mod

    i do not want to upload it as a project or anything just include it as a override in my pack but curse requires approval from the authors and its kinda shady if i don't ask regardless

    other then what i stated above nothing else has been changed

    Thanks!!!