Industrial potions

Viper8797 · Nov 27th 2012

So, when mojang added potions, it was quite nice. Get the awesome magical items and mix them to create potions, that give you buffs. Simple and effective.

Tough, there is one word IC is against, the forbidden word, magic.

Magic items mixing in order to make potions sounds like wizard magic. So i suggest, how about a industrialist way to make potion-like substances!?

Use the extractor to remove substances from plants or dusts from ores and mix them in industrial labs to create chemicals that give you buffs. It would consume EU, and in general, be a more rational and Ic-ist way to do potions.

I recall that once there was a suggestion, very well elaborated that talked abouth PH, substance mixing, in general, chemistry in IC. It would be a very good base for this concept.

I dont expect this to get approved (at least so soon), even less incorporated, but i wanted to give my opinion and hear yours about it.

Blaster · Nov 27th 2012

I would back this one, what buffs would you consider outside of the vanilla potions?

Viper8797 · Nov 27th 2012

well, i dunno, i guess whe can think something out of it...

Better versions of vanilla effects...

Less damage from players,
Less damage from mobs,
More crop yelds,
Posions that seem to do nothing, and after a time cause near instant death,
Sickness poisons, causing allucinations, like hearing explosions, attacks that dont exists (like the Spy's grenade in TF classic)
Rage effect (Awesome damage and Ultra health, when it runs out... You will be KO for a while...

What i also liked (beyond the fact i can be in a white coat with a evil laugh "MY FORMULA! THEY TOLD ME IT COULDNT BE DONE! I WILL SHOW THEM!! MUAHAHAHAHH!!!") is that you can easily link it to other suggestions.

Remember that "copper dust" that would kill vegetation, e.t.c? Guess how it could be done?

You could develop better fertilizers, War chemicals (for industrium conflict), dity bombs, Acid bombs e.t.c...

Nanomanz · Nov 28th 2012

*cough* Boozeception *cough*
I think this was the original premise of Boozeception, but it kinda needs a rework and/or buff.

Blaster · Nov 28th 2012

one i would recomend is a better invisability potion that doesn't have the particle effects.
As for the War Chemicals, it is times like these where gas effects were in Minecraft.

m157 · Nov 28th 2012

How about a potion of harming or potion of poison, that doesn't just shout out "DON'T DRINK ME"
Those thing are basically useless unless you make them splash

T10a · Nov 28th 2012

IC2 is a tech mod, we don't go into potions. If you want Industrial Potions, have a Minecraft beer. Trust me

Viper8797 · Nov 28th 2012

Thats the point. Potions arent industrial, this suggestion is about a new system, sort of like the beer system, but centered around chemicals and SCIENCE! in our modern world, mixing a eyeball with a plant would most likely give you a disease or some sort of natural effect, but im talking about advanced chemicals.

Also, i want to start a "Viper Corporation" and develop a "V-Virus" to make Stevies stronger, but have it going bad and releasing a infection.

I dont know if it is codeable, but can we have potions that are labeled as Unknown potion, or unedintifiable potion? Poisons are basically useless unless in splash form...

GregoriusT · Nov 28th 2012

Quote from Viper8797

in our modern world, mixing a eyeball with a plant would most likely give you a disease or some sort of natural effect

It would make you Bear Grylls. Oh right, that was drinking your own Piss.

According to 2 Mods, Redstone consists out of Quicksilver. Many Potions would be seriously poisonous.

Eliav24 · Nov 28th 2012

What about soaking the potion into (stackable?) bandages? I mean, it's not really that high-tech, but so is beer, it's more modern and less "mystical" (honestly, alchemy that works is accidental chemistry, so any "it's magic!" claims aren't really to the point).

Hey, we could start a whole new area of industrial craft- Medicine! (we have agriculture, we can do medicine)! With bandages*, syringes**, and more!?

*(wool,string?,rubber?, craft with potion for bandage, have cool down or diminishing return?, craft with water to clean?)

**(tin, rubber?, glass, iron cable?, craft with potion (or more?) and stab for direct effect (heal friend? poison enemy? buff creeper?), extract? (mob? player? flesh? bio signature? cloning?))

this has so much hayo potential... and yet, maybe for a different mod?

MatLaPatate · Nov 28th 2012

I would like a Try-all-sorts-of-combination-in-your-GUI-placeable-as-an-advanced-machine-to-get-industrial-drugs/medicine (a long word ^^). It would be more Industrial-ish than the brewing system, more random if you don't know how to proceed, but once you know, more useful (because honestly, who spend hours farming nethermobs to get 2 Potions ? ^^) --> I mean it would have "Normal" components ^^.

Viper8797 · Nov 28th 2012

Yes, thank you for your support and suggestions (im surprised i havent been showed the bannerhammer given how awfull my suggestions usually are)

But its true: You can do many chemicals, poisons and acids with everything you have just in your backyard, the problem is to find a good combo. You can predict the effects of some things, but not totally predict the result. Thats like IC Beer, heck, its like Real life chemistry. The point of this would be to do complicated and awesome chemical mixing in order to obtain solutions with a effect you think you know, but may end just doing the complete opposite. Mixing two X things doesnt always give you a combine X thing, somethimes you may just end with a Y.

MC potions are about getting awkward ingredients and consult a wiki, just that. IC Beer is about finding a good porporsion to get benefits, but there are few ingredients and not much buffs (not to mention a lab is cooler than a brewer basement)

This would be somewhat like beer, but with more buffs, and more risks, and more SCIENCE!(not to mention we could name the components the way we would like, something like AlbaTye or Hayoish acid )

Sinnaj63 · Nov 28th 2012

Medicine and dangerous liquids would be a very cool addition. As the other people postes here said, there would be many cool things you could do.
For example, a hospital with high-tech devices and so on would be cool, or a secret base were chemically things are developed.

As well, much things in minecraft have an industrial conterpart, so why dont give brewing another one. That would also be a chance for some new plants, and maybe even some multiblock devices.

Viper8797 · Nov 28th 2012

Quote from Sinnaj63

As well, much things in minecraft have an industrial conterpart, so why dont give brewing another one. That would also be a chance for some new plants, and maybe even some multiblock devices.

Oh god... you did it... Madmen... THIS IS MADNESS!! YOU SUGGESTED MULTIBLOCK MACHINES IN IC FORUM!!! Havent you hear the tales? people who sugges that, and then, boom, nobody ever sees them again! I will miss you. (jokes aside, Multi block machines were shot down several times because of lag)

One thing i like about this idea is how easy it connects to other ideas, addons and suggestions. Industrium conflict, medicine, better agriculture, PvP, mad scientist labs, there is a lot of things you can fit into this idea!

MatLaPatate · Nov 29th 2012

Quote from Sinnaj63

As well, much things in minecraft have an industrial conterpart, so why dont give brewing another one. That would also be a chance for some new plants, and maybe even some multiblock devices

Don't forget a way of introducing research. (--> Secret from Chest [Dungeons, Stronghold etc ...] + a reseach-GUI! There are plentyh of possibility with bacterias, as an example.)

wasmic · Nov 30th 2012

Hmmmm, bandages? Industrium conflict?

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MatLaPatate · Nov 30th 2012

Quote from wasmic

Hmmmm, bandages? Industrium conflict?

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lol. And Übercharge/critical hits buffs
Add to this an invisibility suit and Zombie-Robots(/spambots ^^), and you'll get TF2

EnderWraithGuard · Nov 30th 2012

This is the most FUDGING AWESOME idea I have seen. You guys should probably take some ideas from the now outdated MineChem mod.

Viper8797 · Dec 7th 2012

this could be a very nice addition, if well built...

I wonder what's the Devs and Alblaka position on it...

QUICK! SUGGEST MULTIBLOCK MACHINES OR LIGHTING RODS! He will be here in no time

mcmz4e · Dec 7th 2012

One logical potion effect I can think of would be:
salt+water=saline solution(the base for all other potions maybe)
drinking it as it is gives you the effect "salty sweat" wich makes you immune to electric damage (lightning and tesla coils, if you're gonna have industrial warfare there has to be a way to bypass a tesla coil defense grid)
salt could come from just cobble in an extractor(if it's gonna be the base of all potions/vaccines/steroids it should be rather cheap) and be just an item...no need for a new ore.

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