FourFire's Reactors: Mark I, Mark II, Mark IV, Mark V And Breeders

Only while in a reactor.

maybe the posibility to upgrade your ractor wit iridum so it uses a bigger outside cooling grid?
then it wouldn't overpower the reactor by much but give some people the possibility to create a better cooling reactor without changing the space design

Are the cooling mechanics still bugged so perfect breeders don't work? I just want to know before I heat mine up then leave it, and have it explode while I was gone

As far as I know, cooling is (or was in 0.90?) too strong rather than too weak, so I your reaktor was an equal-breeder, it should be a negative-breeder.
On the other hand, I think Alblaka mentioned somewhere what caused the bug, which implies for me that he fixed it.
Therefore, there’s only the risk of running too low, but not of overheating.

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All the known cooling issues were fixed in 1.00, yeah. Things should be running hotter now.

Cool beans :3
LETS GET NUKIN'

I imagine with the reactor code being fixed now that most of these designs don't work as designed anymore. I already know for a fact that the 2 chamber perfect breeder is no longer perfect. I did the math on it, and it should be producing 4 heat per reactor tick.

Math stuffs:
h/t = heat per reactor tick
h/p = heat per uranium pulse

--Heat--
1 Uranium Cell:
w/ 2 cooling elements:8 h/p.
w/ 2 fuel cells bordering: 3 total pulses (2 extra)
total heat produced:24 h/t.
2 depleted isotope cells:
2 h/t.

Total heat: 26 h/t

--Cooling--
reactor:
-1 h/t.
2 reactor chambers: (-2 h/t per chamber)
-4 h/t.
11 cooling cells:
-11 h/t.
24 air blocks around reactor: (-0.25 h/t per air block)
-6 h/t.

Total Cooling: -22 h/t.

I modified the design to balance out that 4 extra heat, and I'm testing it now. It theoretically should be a perfect breeder now. To get it, do the following:

If you number the cells in a grid, with the top left being 1,1 and bottom right being 6,5

Remove the cooling cells at 5,2 and 5,4.
Remove the integrated heat disperser at 5,3
Move the cooling cell from 6,3 up to 5,3.
In effect, your removing two points of cooling from the reactor, bringing the heat up to 6.
Now we dissipate that extra heat externally.
Replace 8 blocks of air (+2 heat for a total of 8 heat) with 8 blocks of water (-8 heat).

That should bring heat production/dissipation to exactly 0.

If my maths are all wrong like, feel free to let me know. I'm still trying to figure this system out.

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Yes all of the cooling bugs are now fixed i will be revising my designs and so on feel free to do the same

And yes that would even out the heat perfectly but you must also consider two things:
1. Never use water blocks to cool breeders (unless you dont want uranium efficiency) as they will evaporate at 35% reactor heat capacity
2. you have to leave at least one space in the reactor for heat regulation.

good work though, keep at it

1. Makes sense. Problem is, without the water I'll have to figure out some way to even out the heat, because with that design, you can't do it with cooling cells alone. I'll have to think on that one.

2. Perhaps, although I have no problem doing a quick bucket swap with a cooling cell though, so it's only a minor concern. Those few ticks that the reactor gets 1 less cooling are not going to send it into meltdown.

By the way, how much heat does a bucket of lava add to the reactor? Trying to heat this thing up becomes a problem when the heat gets evened out across all the cooling cells.

AFAIK it is 2000 heat.

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1. Makes sense. Problem is, without the water I'll have to figure out some way to even out the heat, because with that design, you can't do it with cooling cells alone. I'll have to think on that one.

2. Perhaps, although I have no problem doing a quick bucket swap with a cooling cell though, so it's only a minor concern. Those few ticks that the reactor gets 1 less cooling are not going to send it into meltdown.

By the way, how much heat does a bucket of lava add to the reactor? Trying to heat this thing up becomes a problem when the heat gets evened out across all the cooling cells.

you could disconnect your external heat from your internal heat. Avoid using HDs and just use plating to disperse heat within your reactor, that way any heat you add to the reactor via lava is independent of your reactors operations.

I haven't figure out the nuclear power yet, so i just tried one of your designs in my test world, The "Mark II-0 CB Reactor"... And it exploded at the very end of the cycle (generated about 11kk eu, and then melted out the heat dispensers)
Is it just as planned? ._.

And i am trying to run it with the RedPower Logic controller, that gives a one-second cooldown period each minute, but it is going to explode again... I've increased the period to 5 seconds, but it looks like it wouldn't help. May be it is too late

- Can you do that? Can you explode twice?
YES WE CAN!
As expected, it exploded again. I know, this is the design for IC2 v0.9, but maaaybe my experiment will help you a bit. ^___^

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I really try to avoid using plates as they provide 0.1 cooling per tick and that is Really a pain when making an equal breeder but you do provide sense in your reasoning

I stay away from plates as well due to them not reacting fast enough to temp changes to be worthwhile. I also like that HD's provide the only window into the reactor's heat levels.

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as I am now discovering saturating the cooling elements requires absurd amounts of lava buckets however with the new pump (hopefully to be fixed some time soon)
bucket filling in the nether should not be a problem.

same problem I had. I did manage to make an air cooled equal breeder though with one uranium and two isotope cores.

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also I am going with high heat breeding because if you have 1 uranium core and 1 isotope breeding a 0 heat i will use 8 cores for every single isotope enriched.1/8
using two isotopes with 1 core will result in a 1/4 winback at 3000 heat it will be 1/2 or 50% at 6000 heat you will simply be wasting your time in crafting depleted cores
and at 9000 heat you will double your uranium yeild. so truly this is a starter breeder for the time with not as many resources for multiple reactors I have a dual core breeder (which I suspect is not up to par math wise) but testing will show

I found another problem as well. With an equal breeder running using HD's, I would think that the HD's would equal out the reactor heat as a percentage, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Taking all the plating out should make the HD's go down in level, as the reactor now has less durability, but the HD's don't move a pixel. This means that the extra durability that reactor plating adds isn't taken into consideration for reactor heat balance. What that means to breeders is, there is really a max heat you can attain on the reactor (9k) before all of your components melt. If you can get your reactor plating high enough to withstand 9k heat with no side effects, then your breeder can't go any faster using HD's or the HD's will melt. Anything past that would require no HD's in the machine.

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I haven't figure out the nuclear power yet, so i just tried one of your designs in my test world, The "Mark II-0 CB Reactor"... And it exploded at the very end of the cycle (generated about 11kk eu, and then melted out the heat dispensers)
Is it just as planned? ._.

And i am trying to run it with the RedPower Logic controller, that gives a one-second cooldown period each minute, but it is going to explode again... I've increased the period to 5 seconds, but it looks like it wouldn't help. May be it is too late

- Can you do that? Can you explode twice?
YES WE CAN!
As expected, it exploded again. I know, this is the design for IC2 v0.9, but maaaybe my experiment will help you a bit. ^___^

For a Mark II that works in 1.0, try this:

The 4 uranium cells should deplete faster than the cooling cells. At least I've never had any problems with it overloading. Keep in mind, that reactor is water cooled. Toward the end of the cycle, I noticed it evaporated a bit of the water. Not a huge deal though as it still ran to finish.

Oh, thank you very much... But, what does that integrated plating do? Just increases the reactor "hp"?

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Oh, thank you very much... But, what does that integrated plating do? Just increases the reactor "hp"?

Yup. There was an extra space there, so I put a reactor plate in to raise the reactor hull durability a bit. You could even add another where I have the bucket if you want. It basically gives you a bit more time before any bad effects start happening.